Re: RFC: netfilter: xtables: add CT target

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Patrick McHardy wrote:

> Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> > 
> >> Adding an event mask to the ecache extension also looks unproblematic.
> >> You could then use a rule like this:
> >>
> >> iptables -t raw .. -j CT --ctevents new,related,protoinfo,helper
> >>
> >> or something like that. Are the existing event types fine grained
> >> enough for this?
> > 
> > The possible events were cut back strongly and now the conntrack state 
> > changes ASSURED and SEEN_REPLY cannot be distinguished. In my opinion 
> > either SEEN_REPLY should not trigger an event at all or IPCT_ASSURED 
> > should be put back.
> 
> I think it makes sense to generate an event for SEEN_REPLY since
> its a synchronizable event (ctnetlink can also set the SEEN_REPLY
> bit). I'm not opposed to add back IPCT_ASSURED, but I'm wondering,
> in what case would userspace be interested in only one of both
> updates?

I have only one case, but I think that's worth it: "sparse" conntrack 
replication. Start replicating the conntrack entry after it reached the 
ASSURED state and that way it's SYN-flood resistant. (Of course conntrack 
could filter out the NEW/SEEN_REPLY state changes and wait for ASSURED, 
but then the events are just sent unnecessarily.)

Best regards,
Jozsef
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