Re: RFC: netfilter: nf_conntrack: add support for "conntrack zones"

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On 01/14/2010 07:05 AM, jamal wrote:

Ive had an equivalent discussion with B Greear (CCed) at one point on
something similar, curious if you solve things differently - couldnt
tell from the patch if you address it.
Comments inline:

On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 15:05 +0100, Patrick McHardy wrote:
The attached largish patch adds support for "conntrack zones",
which are virtual conntrack tables that can be used to seperate
connections from different zones, allowing to handle multiple
connections with equal identities in conntrack and NAT.

A zone is simply a numerical identifier associated with a network
device that is incorporated into the various hashes and used to
distinguish entries in addition to the connection tuples. Additionally
it is used to seperate conntrack defragmentation queues. An iptables
target for the raw table could be used alternatively to the network
device for assigning conntrack entries to zones.


This is mainly useful when connecting multiple private networks using
the same addresses (which unfortunately happens occasionally)

Agreed that this would be a main driver of such a feature.
Which means that you need zones (or whatever noun other people use) to
work on not just netfilter, but also routing, ipsec etc.
As a digression: this is trivial to solve with network namespaces.

For small or simple cases, this may be true..but there is a lot of work
to make a complex user-space app that manages arbitrary amounts of interfaces
routing tables in an arbitrary amount of network namespaces.  With the contrack-zones
approach, user-space apps do not require any significant changes, and you do not
need the rest of the namespace overhead to accomplish the task.

Thanks,
Ben

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Ben Greear <greearb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Candela Technologies Inc  http://www.candelatech.com

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