On Monday 2009-04-27 21:46, Linus Torvalds wrote: >Clue bat #3 [sic #4]: > > - if you do not understand the difference between these two things, don't > then try to claim that somebody _else_ who does understand it is > "deluding himself". > > Analogy time: Ethernet and a modem line can both get you on the > internet. Now, let's say that Mr Peter Paste-Eater has heard of > ethernet, and knows you can get on the internet with an ethernet > connection, but he happens to use a modem line to do it. > > Now, Peter Paste-Eater talks to you, and tells you he is connecting to > the internet with ethernet, and proudly shows you his serial line and > modem, and tells you how he uses ethernet to get onto the internet. You > correct him, and tell him it's not ethernet. He argues for several > days about how he gets on the internet, and that it must thus be > ethernet, and that you're obviously just "deluding yourself". > >Now, can you see why people react badly to you talking about "recursive >locks"? You're acting like Peter Paste-Eater calling his serial line >ethernet. It could be worse. He could be running Ethernet over serial, e.g. L2TP. Or his serial line is a TP cable with RJ45 plugs - consumers like to call that Ethernet (cable) too. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html