Re: [PATCH] netfilter: xtables: add cluster match

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Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
Patrick McHardy wrote:
A possible solution (that thinking it well, I don't like too much yet)
would be to convert this to a HASHMARK target that will store the result
of the hash in the skbuff mark, but the problem is that it would require
a reserved space for hashmarks since they may clash with other
user-defined marks.
That sounds a bit like a premature optimization. What I don't get
is why you don't simply set cluster-total-nodes to one when two
are down or remove the rule entirely.

Indeed, but in practise existing failover daemons (at least those
free/opensource that I know) doesn't show that "intelligent" behaviour
since they initially (according to the configuration file) assign the
resources to each node, and if one node fails, it assigns the
corresponding resources to another sane node (ie. the daemon runs a
script with the corresponding iptables rules).

Re-adjusting cluster-total-nodes and cluster-local-nodes options (eg. if
one cluster node goes down and there are only two nodes alive, change
the rule-set to have only two nodes) seems indeed the natural way to go
since the alive cluster nodes would share the workload that the failing
node has left. However, as said, existing failover daemons only select
one new master to recover what a failing node was doing, thus, only one
runs the script to inject the states into the kernel.

Therefore AFAICS, without the /proc interface, I would need one iptables
rule per cluster-local-node handled, and so it's still the possible
sub-optimal situation when one or several node fails.

OK, that explains why you want to handle it this way. I don't want
to merge the proc file part though, so until the daemons get smarter,
people will have to use multiple rules.

BTW, I recently looked into TIPC, its incredibly easy to use since
it deals with dead-node dectection etc internally and all you need
to do is exchange a few messages. Might be quite easy to write a
smarter failover daemon.
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