On Tuesday, 12. August 2008 10:18:22 David Miller wrote: > From: Thomas Jarosch <thomas.jarosch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:46:17 +0200 > > > David, I agree with you, though I'm not sure about the end user > > experience: > > We had the same situation with ECN and window scaling, and my proposal > is the same as how we handled those situations involving broken > middleware boxes. Yes, that is true. IMHO there's a slight difference with FRTO trouble compared to ECN/window scaling issues: ECN trouble -> No access at all Broken window scaling -> Large transfers don't work MTU issues -> No access at all / large transfers don't work FRTO problems -> Hard to spot as they only happen when packet loss occurs. Though I guess Ilpo knows best if there's an "easy" way to detect this or not. Thomas -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html