Re: Plans for future iptables versions / jumpset feature

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Thomas Jacob wrote:
Hello list,

In a reply to a post last week about netfilter/iptables's performance
(see below for link), Patrick McHardy wrote about him working on a successor to iptables that would be able to manipulate
single rules in a set without any need to replace the whole
ruleset, and that would also include native support
for match sets and the like:

http://marc.info/?l=netfilter-devel&m=121085934512644

Are the plans for that online somewhere? Is there
a envisioned time line?

The plans come mostly from multiple discussions on this list
and in private, as well as my dislikes of certains aspects
of iptables (like the insane amount of modules).

The time line is vague, I originally wanted to have something
to publish this month, but other things are keeping me busy.
So to be safe I'll not promise anything before the next netfilter
workshop.

I might publish an outline of the new design though if I'll
find some time.

I'm asking because I'm thinking about whether or not
it's feasible and/or sensibly to write some kind
of target module that I'm choosing to call "jumpset" for now, that
would act as a fast (>O(log(n)) "jump diststribution point".

Thats one of the things I also want to add (halfway finished yet).
Jumps are regular verdicts in my new design and verdicts can be
gathered though lookups in sets, hashes etc. So you could do:

unnamed ... -j { 192.168.0.1:chain_1, 192.168.0.2:chain_2, ...}

I also want to have the same working for mark etc:

unnamed ... -j MARK --set-mark { 192.168.0.1:1, 192.168.0.2: 2, .. }

or alternatively:

unnamed ... -j MARK --set-mark ip-dst & 0xFF

The idea is to have a mapping between a a potentially large set of IP
addresses and the chain/target space, so one could have a different
"next chain" for each  different source/target IP or possibly
source/target network. The internal implementation of the necessary
data structures would be something along the lines of the ipset
extension.
The application would be being able to provide customized
rule sets for lots of different machines at just a few central netfilter
boxen. Or perhaps to block traffic from different attack sources in
completely different ways in an IDS/IPS system.

In some cases one could of course achieve a similar functionality by
constructing rule trees with the existing standard distribution but that
could create a huge number of rules that simply link to the next chain
and in general looks rather messy.

Doing this in iptables might get a bit hairy, but it shouldn't be
that hard.

But if iptables will be fundamentally different next year or if
it will already contain something similar, it would probably not be very
productive to work on such a module.

It would be great to have this in shape by next year, but I won't
promise anything. Should be doable though.

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