Re: ebtables and iptables different behavior between 2.6.18 on fc6 and 2.6.23 on fc8

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On Tuesday 2008-03-25 02:18, Greg Scott wrote:

This issue cost me most of a night's sleep and it will take me a few
paragraphs to describe.  The one sentence summary is, marking packets
with ebtables and reading later with iptables seems to behave
differently with 2.6.23 than it did with 2.6.18 and earlier.

I put together a firewall system based on fc8 and the RedHat kernel that
ships with fc8.  I think this one is 2.6.23-2.  My previous latest and
greatest was with a 2.6.18 variant that shipped with fc6.

This config requires that I bridge.  I need to bridge because I have
various H.323 videoconference codecs behind the firewall system and some
of these, especially older ones, do not work very well with NAT.  The
other choice besides bridging is proxy ARP, but I learned the hard way
that proxy ARP is horrible in colocation situations.  So I need to
bridge.

But I also need NAT to handle traditional PCs and other stuff behind the
firewall.

To make this work, I need to know which way packets are headed.  I need
to know on which interface packets come in, and which interface they go
out.  This is easy with routing, more challenging with bridging.
iptables had a facility that would let me test --physdev with bridged
packets.  It might still be there but I remember reading a discussion
about how this violated layering and would not be supported long term.

It still is, and I do not think it will change.
And actually, it is pretty easy, in two rules, unless I made a mistake somewhere:

	# obviously bridged
	iptables -t mangle -A FORWARD -i br0 -o br0 -j MARK --set-mark 111
	(Or equivalently: ebtables -t filter -A FORWARD -p ipv4 -j mark
	--set-mark 111)

	# snat non-bridged
	iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o br0 -m physdev --physdev-out eth0
		-m mark ! --mark 111 -j SNAT ...


None of my packets that were supposed to have that "3" mark ever kept
them.  For some reason, they either never were marked or they were
marked and then the mark disappeared.

I can reproduce it. Testcase is actually a two-liner:

	ebtables -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -j mark --set-mark 99
	iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o br0 -j LOGMARK

LOGMARK (yay - this target really seems to show off :^)  tells me:

	[214558.490202] nfmark=0x0 secmark=0x0 classify=0x2
	ct=0xede74954 ctmark=0x0 ctstate=ESTABLISHED
	ctstatus=,SEEN_REPLY,ASSURED,CONFIRMED

Now that is indeed interesting. I had this thought, maybe the mark does not disappear, maybe ebtables is run -- contrary to most graphics depicting the netfilter flow -- _after_ iptables. So I tried:

	iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -j LOG --log-prefix "[ipt] " -d 134.76.13.21
	ebtables -A OUTPUT -p ipv4 --ip-destination 134.76.13.21 --log --log-prefix "[ebt] "

with the result of:

	[214961.190130] [ipt] IN= OUT=br0 SRC=10.10.106.161 DST=134.76.13.21
	LEN=84 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=ICMP TYPE=8 CODE=0
	ID=59252 SEQ=1

	[214961.190186] [ebt]  IN= OUT=sis0 MAC source = 00:0a:e6:98:ed:d7 MAC
	dest = 68:a8:3e:d3:d0:fb proto = 0x0800

which means ebtables actually comes after iptables, and hence, your mark 3 will not show up as you expected.


So my questions - what changed with the interaction betweem iptables and
ebtables?

I'm going to figure out now...

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