Jan Engelhardt wrote: > On Dec 15 2007 16:55, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote: >> The revision thing was a hack that I introduced myself to let us add >> several improvements that we really needed at that time, actually it is >> not something we should abuse IMO. >> > But it looks like the cleanest way to do things. If you think it is abuse, > do you have a better way? Indeed, it is the best way to do things as for now but I don't think that we should pollute the code with tons of revisions unless that it is necessary. >>> Old revisions should be purged after a "reasonable time" (whatever >>> that means for everyone), or perhaps whenever there is a Linux kernel >>> version with a trailing .0 (2.7.0, 2.8.0), or when great new things >>> appear (pkttables, or whatever is in the works). >>> >>> I think the step should better be made now than later, or this cruft >>> will be carried for the next 10 instead of 5 years. >> I hope that we'll get that long-awaited netlink interface for iptables >> before those 10 years goes by and we all become museum pieces :) >> > What will netlink bring us, with respect to the two states: > - old iptables, new kernel > - new iptables, old kernel > so matching some UUIDs (and .revision is one, more or less) seems like the way > to go. Netlink doesn't stick us to fixed structure layouts as it happens to the current interface since we represent the messages kernel <-> userspace in TLV (type-length-value) format. Thus, userspace and kernel won't share structures and new features just require a new type. For that reason, the netlink interface won't require such revision infrastructure. Not that I'm against your patches, I'm just stating the right direction to go for those 5-10 years that you have mentioned. And of course, we don't have a single line of such interface at the moment :) -- "Los honestos son inadaptados sociales" -- Les Luthiers - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html