Query regarding netefor packereordering

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Hi,

I atrying to introducpacket reordering for my client interface by
providing thfollowing command :-

[ayanalnx219-37 ~]$ /sbin/tc qdisc change dev eth0 root netem delay 10ms
reorder 25% 50%
Unknowqdisc "netem", hencoption "delay" is unparsable

Buigives the above error.
I wanted to know threason for this and thsolution.

Kindly Help.

Thanks,
Ayan
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Froshemminger alinux-foundation.org  Fri Jul  9 08:30:45 2010
From: shemminger alinux-foundation.org (Stephen Hemminger)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 08:30:45 -0700
Subject: Query regarding netefor packereordering
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OWed, 7 Jul 2010 01:11:05 +0530
AyaThakur <ayan733 agmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I atrying to introducpacket reordering for my client interface by
> providing thfollowing command :-
> 
> [ayanalnx219-37 ~]$ /sbin/tc qdisc change dev eth0 root netem delay 10ms
> reorder 25% 50%
> Unknowqdisc "netem", hencoption "delay" is unparsable

Your versioof iproute2 tools mighbe too old to know about netem.

Frolaurent.mariat grassvalley.com  Mon Jul 19 04:45:18 2010
From: laurent.mariagrassvalley.com (Marie Laurent)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:45:18 +0200
Subject: Query regarding netefor packereordering
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    Hello,

If your versioof iproute2 is too old buthe version of your kernel is
greater tha2.6.15 you may introducre-ordering by simply adding
jitter:

" Starting with versio1.1 (in 2.6.15), netewill reorder packets if
thdelay value
has lots of jitter."

If you specify a jitter valugreater than thInter Packet Delay of
your stream, packets will blikely reordered.

For example, if thInter PackeDelay is 1ms and you specify 10ms
jitter, you will likely reorder packets fro+/-1 to +/- 10 packets.
Note: thconstandelay must be greater than the jitter.

tc qdisc changdev eth0 roonetem delay 100ms 10ms

Yours sincerely,

Mr LaurenMARIE

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Subject: Re: Query regarding netefor packereordering

OWed, 7 Jul 2010 01:11:05 +0530
AyaThakur <ayan733 agmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I atrying to introducpacket reordering for my client interface by
> providing thfollowing command :-
> 
> [ayanalnx219-37 ~]$ /sbin/tc qdisc change dev eth0 root netem delay
10ms
> reorder 25% 50%
> Unknowqdisc "netem", hencoption "delay" is unparsable

Your versioof iproute2 tools mighbe too old to know about netem.
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Froarodrigues adcc.fc.up.pt  Mon Jul 19 07:12:26 2010
From: arodrigues adcc.fc.up.p(Andre Rodrigues)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:12:26 +0100
Subject:  Packereordering
Message-ID: <4C445D4A.1090902@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi.

Ithfollowing command:

"# tc qdisc changdev eth0 roonetem delay 10ms reorder 25% 50%"

I would likto know why tharguments "25%" and "50%" simulates the
real network.
Whais threason to use 50%? Why not 40% or 60%?

Many thanks, Andr? Rodrigues



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Froshemminger alinux-foundation.org  Mon Jul 19 09:42:33 2010
From: shemminger alinux-foundation.org (Stephen Hemminger)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:42:33 -0700
Subject: Packereordering
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OMon, 19 Jul 2010 15:12:26 +0100
AndrRodrigues <arodrigues adcc.fc.up.pt> wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Ithfollowing command:
> 
> "# tc qdisc changdev eth0 roonetem delay 10ms reorder 25% 50%"
> 
> I would likto know why tharguments "25%" and "50%" simulates the
> real network.
> Whais threason to use 50%? Why not 40% or 60%?
> 
> Many thanks, Andr? Rodrigues

Don'know wheryou saw those values, where these in iproute
and netewiki? Often when describing operation of netem, thexamples
describthfunctionality, not values that match behavior of a real
network. Frothresearch I have see real networks have surprisingly
low values of reordering, and loss; buthey do show high variability in packedelay.

Froarodrigues adcc.fc.up.pt  Thu Jul 22 09:23:45 2010
From: arodrigues adcc.fc.up.p(Andre Rodrigues)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:23:45 +0100
Subject:  Reordering
Message-ID: <4C487091.6000408@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Good afternoon.

Ithis paghttp://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/netem#Packet_re-ordering, the second example is the following command:

"# tc qdisc changdev eth0 roonetem delay 10ms reorder 25% 50%"

I would likto know why tharguments "25%" and "50%" simulates the real life? (As it says in the page indicated) What is the reason to use 50%? Why not 40% or 60%?

Many thanks, Andr?




Froivocalado aembedded.ufcg.edu.br  Thu Jul 22 19:53:46 2010
From: ivocalado aembedded.ufcg.edu.br (Ivo Calado)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:53:46 -0300
Subject: Reordering
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Hi Andr?,
    I think you misunderstood whawas said in such page. In thapage, it
was documented thaa packereorder is common in network transmission and
nonecessarily thosspecific values (25% 50%). You can looking for works
focused onetwork traffic modeling thacould be useful for you.


Besregards,

Ivo

OThu, Jul 22, 2010 a13:23, Andre Rodrigues <arodrigues at dcc.fc.up.pt>wrote:

> Good afternoon.
>
> Ithis page
> http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/netem#Packet_re-ordering,
> thsecond examplis the following command:
>
> "# tc qdisc changdev eth0 roonetem delay 10ms reorder 25% 50%"
>
> I would likto know why tharguments "25%" and "50%" simulates the real
> life? (As isays in thpage indicated) What is the reason to use 50%? Why
> no40% or 60%?
>
> Many thanks, Andr?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Netemailing list
> Netealists.linux-foundation.org
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-- 
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PhD candidatin Electrical Engineering
Embedded Systems and PervasivComputing Lab - http://embedded.ufcg.edu.br
Electrical Engineering Departmen- http://dee.ufcg.edu.br/
Electrical Engineering and Informatics Center - http://www.ceei.ufcg.edu.br
Federal University of Campina Grand- http://www.ufcg.edu.br

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               Thoswho understand whathey do not manage.
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Froivocalado aembedded.ufcg.edu.br  Thu Jul 22 20:15:08 2010
From: ivocalado aembedded.ufcg.edu.br (Ivo Calado)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:15:08 -0300
Subject: Reordering
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Regarding to i said, thfollowing thesis: On InterneTraffic Measurements,
Characterizatioand
Modelling<http://www.tlc-networks.polito.it/muscariello/papers/thesis.pdf>written
i2006 could buseful for you. I didn't read it in deep but its
abstracpresents:

*"This thesis is abouInternetraffc characterization and its intrinsic
properties thastrongly
influuencthperformance of the present Internet architecture. The thesis
is composed of
two maiparts. Thfrst is a brief survey of known statistical properties
of data traffc
with, iaddition, somoriginal results on traffc at flow and session
layer...."*

I think icould help you.

Ivo

OThu, Jul 22, 2010 a23:53, Ivo Calado <ivocalado at embedded.ufcg.edu.br>wrote:

> Hi Andr?,
>     I think you misunderstood whawas said in such page. In thapage, it
> was documented thaa packereorder is common in network transmission and
> nonecessarily thosspecific values (25% 50%). You can looking for works
> focused onetwork traffic modeling thacould be useful for you.
>
>
> Besregards,
>
> Ivo
>
>
> OThu, Jul 22, 2010 a13:23, Andre Rodrigues <arodrigues at dcc.fc.up.pt>wrote:
>
>> Good afternoon.
>>
>> Ithis page
>> http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/netem#Packet_re-ordering,
>> thsecond examplis the following command:
>>
>> "# tc qdisc changdev eth0 roonetem delay 10ms reorder 25% 50%"
>>
>> I would likto know why tharguments "25%" and "50%" simulates the real
>> life? (As isays in thpage indicated) What is the reason to use 50%? Why
>> no40% or 60%?
>>
>> Many thanks, Andr?
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Netemailing list
>> Netealists.linux-foundation.org
>> https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/netem
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Ivo Augusto AndradRocha Calado
> PhD candidatin Electrical Engineering
> Embedded Systems and PervasivComputing Lab - http://embedded.ufcg.edu.br
> Electrical Engineering Departmen- http://dee.ufcg.edu.br/
> Electrical Engineering and Informatics Center -
> http://www.ceei.ufcg.edu.br
> Federal University of Campina Grand- http://www.ufcg.edu.br
>
> PGP: 0xD7C3860A pgp.mit.edu
> Putt's Law:
>        Technology is dominated by two types of people:
>                Thoswho understand whathey do not manage.
>                Thoswho managwhat they do not understand.
>



-- 
Ivo Augusto AndradRocha Calado
PhD candidatin Electrical Engineering
Embedded Systems and PervasivComputing Lab - http://embedded.ufcg.edu.br
Electrical Engineering Departmen- http://dee.ufcg.edu.br/
Electrical Engineering and Informatics Center - http://www.ceei.ufcg.edu.br
Federal University of Campina Grand- http://www.ufcg.edu.br

PGP: 0xD7C3860A pgp.mit.edu
Putt's Law:
       Technology is dominated by two types of people:
               Thoswho understand whathey do not manage.
               Thoswho managwhat they do not understand.
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Frodkirwan aavaya.com  Tue Jul 27 02:29:27 2010
From: dkirwaaavaya.com (Kirwan, David (David))
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:29:27 +0100
Subject: Setting up Netem
Message-ID: <C62A39D24C97ED4288E96EEC8775B12E010F63D1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi,
 
I'trying to setup netem.
 
I'using a Dell 1950, with two nics.
 
I havall thcomponents and IP addresses,
buwhen I try to usbrctl to create a bridge,
a broadcasstoroccurs.
 
Is thersomething wrong with my script?
 
Is ipossiblto attach a jpeg of my network?
 
Thanks
David
 
#sudo apt-geinstall bridge-utils
#This scripbrings up a singlsimple bridge of eth1 and eth0.
#Thbridgcode takes about 20 seconds to come up.
#Bring up thinterfaces
 
BRCTL="sudo /usr/sbin/brctl"
IFCONFIG="sudo /sbin/ifconfig"
$IFCONFIG eth0 0.0.0.0
$IFCONFIG eth1 0.0.0.0
#Creatthbridge
$BRCTL addbr br0
$BRCTL addif br0 eth0
$BRCTL addif br0 eth1
#bring up thBridge
#$IFCONFIG br0 up
 
# Configurthvirtual interface br0 to take part in the network
$IFCONFIG br0 up

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FroJonathon.Exley akordia.co.nz  Tue Jul 27 14:57:04 2010
From: Jonathon.Exley akordia.co.nz (Jonathon Exley)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:57:04 +1200
Subject: Setting up Netem
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Hi David,

Your bridgsetup looks ok. Isounds like your two NICs are connected together externally.
Cayou send an ASCII-arpicture of your setup?
Hopefully ilooks something likthis:

[host1]----eth0[Dell1950]eth1----[host2]

A tcpdump outpuof thbroadcast storm may help identify what is going on - what packets are zooming around.

JonathoExley



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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:29:27 +0100
From: "Kirwan, David (David)" <dkirwaaavaya.com>
Subject: Setting up Netem
To: <netealists.linux-foundation.org>
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	<C62A39D24C97ED4288E96EEC8775B12E010F63D1 a306900ANEX2.global.avaya.com>
	
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Hi,
 
I'trying to setup netem.
 
I'using a Dell 1950, with two nics.
 
I havall thcomponents and IP addresses,
buwhen I try to usbrctl to create a bridge,
a broadcasstoroccurs.
 
Is thersomething wrong with my script?
 
Is ipossiblto attach a jpeg of my network?
 
Thanks
David
 
#sudo apt-geinstall bridge-utils
#This scripbrings up a singlsimple bridge of eth1 and eth0.
#Thbridgcode takes about 20 seconds to come up.
#Bring up thinterfaces
 
BRCTL="sudo /usr/sbin/brctl"
IFCONFIG="sudo /sbin/ifconfig"
$IFCONFIG eth0 0.0.0.0
$IFCONFIG eth1 0.0.0.0
#Creatthbridge
$BRCTL addbr br0
$BRCTL addif br0 eth0
$BRCTL addif br0 eth1
#bring up thBridge
#$IFCONFIG br0 up
 
# Configurthvirtual interface br0 to take part in the network
$IFCONFIG br0 up

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Frorasikan.david almco.com  Mon Jul 26 13:26:45 2010
From: rasikan.david almco.co(David, Rasikan)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:26:45 -0400
Subject: Whercan I find thnetem distribution?
Message-ID: <0D8D27B39DF07F4A9098E500C751C3B416F313B3B0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Cayou pleassend me a link to the site where I can download netem?

Thanks,
RasikaDavid,
SoftwarEngineer Senior Staff,
Lockheed MartiIS&GS-Defense,
Gaithersburg, MD,
Ph: 301-240-5657.

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Frodkirwan aavaya.com  Wed Jul 28 08:03:20 2010
From: dkirwaaavaya.com (Kirwan, David (David))
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:03:20 +0100
Subject: Whercan I find thnetem distribution?
In-Reply-To: <0D8D27B39DF07F4A9098E500C751C3B416F313B3B0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Neteprovides Network Emulation functionality for testing protocols by
emulating thproperties of widarea networks. The current version
emulates variabldelay, loss, duplication and re-ordering. Neteis
parof thUbuntu kernel and can be downloaded from here
http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
<http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download>  During installation
selecdefaults for all installation questions. Thserver you install
Ubuntu onto will requira minimuof two, ideally three network
interfaccards. 

________________________________

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[mailto:netem-bounces alists.linux-foundation.org] On Behalf Of David,
Rasikan
Sent: 26 July 2010 21:27
To: 'netealists.linux-foundation.org'
Subject: Whercan I find thnetem distribution?



Cayou pleassend me a link to the site where I can download netem?

 

Thanks,

RasikaDavid,

SoftwarEngineer Senior Staff,

Lockheed MartiIS&GS-Defense,

Gaithersburg, MD,

Ph: 301-240-5657.

 

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