On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:36:24 +0100 Peter Daum <gator_ml at yahoo.de> wrote: > I definitely would anticipate an outcry of indignation about what an > idiot I am for expecting people to look through a dump of useless > noise and figure out what I want if I'd just quote the whole 150+ > lines of output generated by "mencoder -v" (and in this case I would > perfectly understand the indignation If you read the HTML docs, or had looked at a couple other messages from the mailing list before posting, you'd have a very good idea what is/isn't needed, and acceptable behavior here. And even though you didn't, I still wouldn't have gone out of my way to "offend" you... Your borderline-insulting reply, however (which still didn't contain a fraction of the information requsted) just managed to be sufficiently irritating. - even then I would consider it more appropriate to just ignore the posting instead of offending the poster) The opposite has proven to be true, at least around here. People with an MPlayer problem, who don't get a response, often come back and desperately ask for one... even asking to be flamed rather than ignored. -- Ha. I'm the idiot.