On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 09:58:25AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > Hello! Hi Paul, > Some architectures provide local transitivity for a chain of threads doing > writes separated by smp_wmb(), as exemplified by the litmus tests below. > The pattern is that each thread writes to a its own variable, does an > smp_wmb(), then writes a different value to the next thread's variable. > > I don't know of a use of this, but if everyone supports it, it might > be good to mandate it. Status quo is that smp_wmb() is non-transitive, > so it currently isn't supported. > > Anyone know of any architectures that do -not- support this? > > Assuming all architectures -do- support this, any arguments -against- > officially supporting it in Linux? > > Thanx, Paul > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Two threads: > > int a, b; > > void thread0(void) > { > WRITE_ONCE(a, 1); > smp_wmb(); > WRITE_ONCE(b, 2); > } > > void thread1(void) > { > WRITE_ONCE(b, 1); > smp_wmb(); > WRITE_ONCE(a, 2); > } > > /* After all threads have completed and the dust has settled... */ > > BUG_ON(a == 1 && b == 1); My understanding is that this test, and the generalisation to n threads, is forbidden on ARM. However, the transitivity of DMB ST (used to construct smp_wmb()) has been the subject of long debates, because we allow the following test: P0: Wx = 1 P1: Rx == 1 DMB ST Wy = 1 P2: Ry == 1 <addr dep> Rx == 0 so I'd be uneasy about saying "it's all transitive". Will