> On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 08:05:24PM -0300, Guido Guenther wrote: > > > Hi, > > Now that gcc 3.4 has incompatible ABI changes (on o32 mostly affecting > > mipsel) I've been discussing with Thiemo if I'd be the right point to > > take this ABI change as a possibility to additionally reserve a TLS > > register. > > He suggested $24 (t8) another discussed possibility would be $27 (k1) > > which is already abused by the PS/2 folks for ll/sc emulation. > > Another possibility would be to reserve such a register only in the > > n32/n64 ABIs and let o32 stay without __thread and TLS forever. > > Sigh, we'e been through this really often enough. Reserving a register > comes at a price so my approach was to implement a fast path in the > exception code. I've benchmarked that long time ago; it had less than > half the overhead than normal syscall and such a function would be subject > to normal code optimizations so calls should be few only. Alpha already > does something similar using their PAL code. The overhead realtive to a normal syscall is much less interesting to measure than the overhead relative to having the pointer already in a register - after all, half of a whole lot of instructions is still a whole lot of instructions. As some, but perhaps not all of you know, MIPS is working on multithreaded extensions to the instruction set architecture and the hardware, which include the ability to create and destroy parallel threads of executioon without OS intervention in the "expected" case (and yes, I have thought about how Linux could support this, but I'm not gonna go into that here). In such a framework, it would not be acceptable to do a system call to get a TLS value. I don't yet have an opinion as to whether we need to retrofit things so that user-level multithreading is compatible with o32, but I would comment that if we go for a TLS register, k1 may not be a very good option. The LL/SC emulation trick with k1 works by virtue of k1 being *destroyed* by exceptions - it doesn't change its status as a register reserved for kernel use. Regards, Kevin K.