Thanks for the lively discussion and input. It's now clear to me that I'll be tracking (not tracing) the kernel with the h/w debugger through its kgdb shell. We're still working on some drivers, so control over the kernel is a must. I'll have to set up the server to autoload when a connection on a particular port is attempted from another gdb shell, and shut down on disconnection. Keith -> -----Original Message----- -> From: Daniel Jacobowitz [mailto:dan@debian.org] -> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 9:33 PM -> To: Geoffrey Espin -> Cc: Siders, Keith; Linux-Mips (E-mail) -> Subject: Re: Debugging of embedded target applications -> -> -> On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 07:25:23PM -0700, Geoffrey Espin wrote: -> > On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 09:43:14PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: -> > > > Does work it for kernel type debugging over *Ethernet*? -> > > > I see some docs saying "TCP/IP" connection... but does that -> > > > mean a special kind of network driver? Or a gdbstub/agent -> > > > outside the kernel in a special monitor? -> > > What do you mean by kernel type debugging? It's not a -> kernel stub. It -> > > can debug user programs over TCP/IP or a serial line. -> > -> > In traditional embedded RTOS land, "system-level debugging". -> > In the olden days one had to have BDM/JTAG hardware assist -> > to step thru truly arbitary bits of code, like interrupt handlers, -> > scheduler. -> > -> > The original question was about using using a hardware debugger. -> > Clearly using gdb/gdbserver is for apps only, AFAIK. Does one -> > bother with a h/w debugger for apps? Using kgdb with some kind -> -> Actually, yes, you can. I believe at least the Abatron BDI can do -> this. Could be wrong, though. -> -> > of remote debug-agent would be a "system level debugger", a s/w -> > solution to a traditional hardware only debug aid. At this time -> > kind of pointless, as its painful to setup and JTAG debuggers -> > are so cheap (for mainline CPUs). -> -> Depends on your platform. -> -> -- -> Daniel Jacobowitz Carnegie Mellon -> University -> MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux -> Developer ->