Some of MIPS's cores do externalize the event of a "LL" and make it visible on the bus interface. Similarly, the SC is externalized and requires a go/nogo response from the system logic. Think of it as putting a shared LLAddr & LLBit outside the processor. The SC will only succeed if the internal LLBit is ok *and* the external logic gives the go-ahead as well. The reasoning behind all this is that one can then utilize LL/SC in multi CPU systems without full coherency support being required. But then again, this might not be relevant for MIPS/Linux as it will not run without full HW coherency on multiple CPUs? /Hartvig Maciej W. Rozycki writes: > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Ralf Baechle wrote: > > > Some of the processor manuals explicitly note that the execution of a > > ll instruction may not be visible at all externally. That's the case if > > the address is already in a primary cache line in exclusive (ll) or > > dirty (sc) state. That makes even if a processor supports full coherency > > since there is no reason to indicate the update to any other external > > agent. Or am I missing something? > > By definition, apart from an ordinary load, an "ll" does only the > following two additional actions: > > 1. Loads the LLAddr register (it's visible in CP0, at least in certain > implementations) to set up the ll comparator. > > 2. Sets the LLbit flip-flop to set the ll state to valid initially. > > None of the actions should normally involve externally visible activity. > > -- > + Maciej W. Rozycki, Technical University of Gdansk, Poland + > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ > + e-mail: macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl, PGP key available + > > -- _ _ _____ ____ Hartvig Ekner Mailto:hartvige@mips.com |\ /| | |____)(____ Direct: +45 4486 5503 | \/ | | | _____) MIPS Denmark Switch: +45 4486 5555 T E C H N O L O G I E S http://www.mips.com Fax...: +45 4486 5556