Hi strk, Let me give you an overview of whats going on. I'm getting this error when I try to use gifs Catchable fatal error: SWFBitmap::__construct() [swfbitmap.--construct]: GIF images must be translated into DBL files for now I'm using a free host who allows Ming and the Aministrator isn't familiar with Ming. Here are a few replies I have gotten so far: QUOTE (j) You can't use PNG and GIF files directly in Ming - you need to convert them to DBLs which are understood natively by Flash. Not sure about Windows, but in Linux you need the libming-util package (sudo apt-get install libming-util in Ubuntu) and then convert your gif with the QUOTE (Klaus) Hi, This is not entirely true. Ming can be compiled with GIF and PNG support. At compile time the presence of libungif and libpng is checked. If GIF and PNG support is enabled you don't have to convert images to DBL first. Cheers Klaus Quote (My Admin) We have libpng installed. Would giflib would an acceptable alternative to libungif? My Reply So I guess he doesn't have ligungif or wasn't able to find it and wants to know if he can use giflib instad? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Ming-users mailing list Ming-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ming-users