Re: how to update Nokia N810 to maemo 5

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On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 09:29 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote:
> what is the life cycle of Nokia Nx series ? how many years  ?!
> Can you compare it to the rest of the hardware manufactures ?

You get bug fixes for a year or two, but that's different than porting a
whole new software release. Or do you get new user interfaces for other
N series phones?

> can you compare to other Nokia mobile phones ?

Yes. It's called maintenance, fixing of nasty bugs.  Not rewriting the
whole UI.

> it seems that Nokia creates such hardware and make it for geeks to
> have kinda of free R&D research community, imagining that geeks do not
> care about money, they just care about the toy/gadget

If that would be the case, Nokia would be very disappointed by these
geeks by now :)
Maemo/MeeGo is based on open-source and free software, yes, but most of
this free software is written by companies, such as Nokia, not by
teenage geeks with shiny foreheads. This is because most of the work is
boring, endless debugging stuff and no-one wants to do it for free :)

> I still appreciate that some1 from nokia gets into this discussion LOL

I'm not speaking for Nokia since I'm just a lowly, poor software
developer doing the boring parts of open-source ;)

-Kimmo

> please when you say Meego is supported on N900, send references and
> links
> 
> kind regards
> Sam
> 
> 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen <kimmo.hamalainen@xxxxxxxxx>
>         On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 09:09 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote:
>         > thanks for ur reply
>         > but the question here, why they stop the support for it that
>         fast,
>         > even if Maemo5 is dragon
>         > they stopped the others
>         > and for me it sounds like a trend, please read history
>         > Nokia N77, Nokia N800, Nokia N820,Nokia N900
>         
>         
>         I've been around since the Nokia 770, so you don't need to
>         tell me...
>         Technology moves on and if Nokia would stop developing new
>         devices,
>         competitors would go ahead and get the advantage.  If
>         something does not
>         sell, you have to try something else.
>         
>         > and if im not mistaken Meego support is not Official for
>         N900, now
>         > Nokia plays the game again
>         
>         
>         What I've read, N900 is the official ARM platform for MeeGo
>         and
>         certainly supported. You can install MeeGo platform on N900
>         already now.
>         
>         > it is a pitty
>         
>         Money comes from sales.  How many people would be enthusiastic
>         of buying
>         something like N810 nowadays?  You cannot sell the same device
>         for years
>         and years, it just gets old at some point.
>         
>         -Kimmo
>         
>         
>         >
>         > Sam
>         >
>         > 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen <kimmo.hamalainen@xxxxxxxxx>
>         >         On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 08:04 +0200, ext Samer Azmy
>         wrote:
>         >         > now  I have a question
>         >         > 1) Why Nokia do that to us ? it is a modern device
>         and they
>         >         kill it in
>         >         > less than two years
>         >         > 2) is that customer oriented attitude from Nokia ?
>         >         > 3) is Nokia an Ethical company , specially that we
>         have seen
>         >         the same
>         >         > scenario with N770
>         >
>         >
>         >         The main obstacle is that the N810 does not have
>         powerful
>         >         enough OpenGL
>         >         hardware for Maemo 5 user interface.  So Maemo 5
>         would be
>         >         really slow in
>         >         N810, making it worse than the original UI.  Nokia
>         is in
>         >         device selling
>         >         business, so making devices worse is not in its
>         interest.. :)
>         >
>         >         -Kimmo
>         >
>         >
>         >         >
>         >         > Kind Regards
>         >         > Samer
>         >         >
>         >         > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Erik Hovland
>         >         <erik@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         >         >         > I would like to know if it is possible
>         update
>         >         Nokia N810 to
>         >         >         Maemo5.
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >         You can't.
>         >         >
>         >         >         But there is a community effort to make
>         sure MeeGo
>         >         is ported
>         >         >         to the N8x0:
>         >         >         http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N8x0
>         >         >
>         >         >         Hopefully in the near future there can be
>         a MeeGo
>         >         1.x on the
>         >         >         N810.
>         >         >
>         >         >         E
>         >         >
>         >         >         --
>         >         >         Erik Hovland
>         >         >         erik@xxxxxxxxxxx
>         >         >         http://hovland.org/
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