Sent from my iPhone On 7 Mar 2009, at 16:05, Julius Szelagiewicz <julius@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Mark, > You can substitute "Motorola cell phones" for "Nokia tablets" and > your arguments will remain valid. Hardware is easier than software. > julius Now, that's just plain mean!! No company makes phones as bad as Motorola ;-) > > > On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Mark wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Andrew Flegg <andrew@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> John, you wrote: >>>> >>> [snip] >>>> I have to agree with Mark that, implicitly, Nokia misleads the >>>> public to >>>> the extent that it markets the IT's along side of its other mass >>>> market >>>> mobile phone devices if, in fact, the IT's are a work in progress >>>> (I >>>> agree, they are, unfortunately) that will take 5 generations >>>> and a few >>>> more years to get the product ready for the mass market. >>> >>> I don't think they're yet ready for the mainstream, but I don't >>> think they're an albatross around the neck of anyone who buys >>> them, as your Amazon figures show: >>> >>>> N800 >>>> 4 stars out of 5 with a sample size of 172 >>>> >>>> N810 >>>> 4 stars out of 5 with a sample size of 93 >>> >>> Anyway, let's remember the "not ready for mainstream" point... >>> >>>> Over a period of three years, I can count on one finger the >>>> number >>>> of individuals besides myself that I have actually seen >>>> carrying/using an IT >>> >>> As you say, the mainstream aren't buying them yet. If they're not >>> ready for the mainstream, that's a good thing, no? >>> >> >> Not really, because as long as they can keep selling them in >> relatively small numbers to fanboys they don't have to worry about >> supporting them or ever polishing them to the point that they are >> living up to their full potential. Do you really think the successors >> will be any better? They'll keep updating the hardware, and keep >> spending far too little time finishing the software. No generation >> will ever be better than the current ones in that respect. >> >> What good is fantastic hardware without software that can make full >> use of it? >> >> The N800 has been discontinued for a while already, and at this point >> there's zero chance that I'll ever be able to use the hardware to its >> full potential. Nokia has already moved on, and once the next >> generation comes out most of the kind and generous developers who are >> supplying us with apps for the current crop will move most of their >> attention to the new device. They've already said that there will be >> zero backwards compatibility with the OS and software because the >> hardware is going to be fundamentally different. >> >> Do you not understand that as long as they keep coming out with new >> devices and dropping the old ones there will NEVER be one that is >> ready for consumers? In order for a device to be ready for consumers >> they have to stand by it long enough to finish the software. >> >> Mark >> _______________________________________________ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >> > > _______________________________________________ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
