On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:16:08 +0000 (UTC), steveg at moregruel.net (Steve Greenland) wrote: > According to Joshua Layne <joshua at willowisp.net>: >> > My initial response to the flash requirement was the same ("You've *got* > to be kidding me!") but there's one significant difference in N800 et. > al. that doesn't apply to Debian-based systems in general: extremely > limited storage space. An OS upgrade can require a lot of core packages > to be upgraded simultaneously (glibc, busybox, dpkg, apt, etc.) There's > simply not enough free space on a standard N800 to download everything > and install it all at once. Additionally, Debian upgrades get a huge > amount of testing resources which is probably not available to Nokia. > Combined with a long history of "just re-flash it" style upgrades in the > embedded industry, I can understand why Nokia made the choice it did. That makes sense. It seems like an alternate path would be to change apt-get a tiny bit and have it download/install packages serially instead of in parallel (where possible: dependencies permitting). Also, the N810 has more flash space than I have ever had on mobile device. Come to think of it, the N810 has more flash space than my first debian box had disk (by a factor of 2.5!). > The good news is that OS2008 should support more-or-less automatic > restores of your install packages, and Nokia is working on supporting > "real" Debian style upgrades, possibly for OS2009(?) (but I don't have > the link handy). I look forward to that. Unfortunately, reinstallation of packages is not by any stretch the only aspect of bringing a system back to the way _you_ (one) likes it. There is a significant amount of data and customization usually involved as well. Of course, there is always the point where it is _so_ overly customized (and broken) that it is easier to start fresh. Always nice to have options :) Rgds, josh