Hmmm... I have a Linux server here I use for development - didn't think of trying to connect into the N800 using SSH. I'm going to have to give that a try. Thanks! Nick Shaw -----Original Message----- From: maemo-users-bounces at maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-bounces at maemo.org] On Behalf Of James Sparenberg Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 3:04 PM To: maemo-users at maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Crashes On Saturday 10 February 2007 06:54:33 Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: > As I noted in an earlier post, occasionally some programs will fail and > they are terminated. On occasion, however, some programs display very > Windows-like behavior, e.g. the only way to use the system is to remove the > battery and wait a bit then reboot. Specifically, I'll run a program > (fmradio was one such program) and something occurs that prevents me from > turning the unit off, closing the application, or doing anything with the > system. In short, it's non-functional. > > I'm concerned that this will, at some point, corrupt the OS. Thus far, > whenever this occurs, I uninstall the offending program. Thoughts? > Thanks, > > Nick Shaw On this one. First Linux + jffs (jiffy file system used on 770/n800) is a lot less likely to be corrupted as a whole than windwos. Normally this means that the GUI is locked up rather than the system itself. On my 770 (and my laptop too sometimes) if I have an app that locks the GUI, then, SSH to the rescue. SSH into the system, from another box, then either kill the offending app or if what to kill isn't obvious, just do 'shutdown -r now' (without the quotes) or 'reboot' and the box will shut itself down cleanly, and restart. A lot of the differences in how the OS's react to a hard shutdown center around how they view/use a file. Windows always writes back any file it opens. Even if it opens it only to read. Linux on the other hand writes back a file only if it changes and permissions allow writes. This helps prevent a lot of file corruption and fragmentation IMHO. (Yes I know this is an overly simplified explanation but I don't want to either bore or exceed my own ignorance *grin*) James _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users at maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users