Tobacco...buy it at your corner store. Next year when Nokia releases next model w/3G we can discuss further. Dude...you just don't understand. There are two models which are equally valid...each device to it's own and the convergence model. People want both...not everybody wants to wear a "geek" jacket with pockets for their iPod, phone and N800. Why should I carry around 2 devices of roughly same form factor?!? Why should I deal with the BT-pairing/bonding crap involved with two different devices? Have you ever been jamming to tunes on your ipaq/pod and a call came in? It is an often unelegant scramble to answer the phone on your headset. Every high-end umpc or ppc form factor has cellular as option...larger tablets...umpcs...and ppc devices like treo/etc. You state: "I don't *want* convergence...I don't *want* a browser on my phone" But guess what? Many people DO want convergence...phones are getting crammed with PIM/web features and screen sizes are shooting up....and conversely pocket pcs/etc. are getting cellular capability. It's a computer...not a phone. mike Jonathan Matthews-Levine wrote: > On 2/6/07, Mike Klein <mklein at vxappliance.com> wrote: > [snipped] >> 3rd worst problem is no 3G/cellular capability built-in. > > You. Must. Be. Kidding. > > Seriously - WTF are you smoking? And can I have some? > > The /lack/ of built-in cellular capability leads to less complexity, > telco control and the frankly *brilliant* property that when I upgrade > my phone (which I'm always going to carry, anyway - it's not large) > from GPRS->3G or 3G->HSDPA my 770/800 instantly gets the extra > bandwidth. > > It's also (along with the Seagate D.A.V.E and that other > Bluetooth/wifi hard drive that I can't remember the name of) the start > of the /proper/ use of Bluetooth to create a /real/ Personal Area > Network where your data is on a small brick in your bag, your > "connectivity cube" (talking wifi, wimax and 3G) is in your pocket, > your voice headset sits in $ORIFICE (suggestion: ear) and it's all > tied together over Bluetooth or its successor. > > I don't *want* convergence: I want quality devices doing their > individual jobs, with no duplication of function. > > I don't *want* a browser on my phone: I want it on my 770/800! Ditto > IM clients, VOIP (which shouldn't, in my ideal PAN-filled world, live > on the 770/800) and video players. > > Nokia: if you could have all this working by - let's say - 1Q2008, I'd > be grateful. Q2 would be acceptable, however ... > > Ta. > Jonathan