I did not say that the 770 is there *yet*. Sure there is a long way to go. I just said that comparing Nokia 1st generation Internet Tablet with Apple 5th generation iPod is not reasonable. Compare it to the 1st iPod, or the 1st Newton. Is Nokia that far-off? I don't think so. Moreover, the N770 can improve by the community development. It is far more versatile than any iPod. Even if Nokia had it all messed up, the community can fix it. If the 5th gen 770 (775?) is not as sucessful as the iPods, I'll hand it down to you. Regards. 2006/1/27, John B. Holmblad <jholmblad at aol.com>: > > Wooky, > > well the market has clearly voted with its wallet with respect to the IPOD > irrespective of your concerns about its functionally. > > Nokia has a lot to learn about leveraging brand identity from one > technology to the next. Apple has figured out how to do this very well, > having made some mistakes itself in its 30 year history. Nokia is still > working on this kind of leveraging with respect to the N770. Nokia will have > achieved market success with a product like the N770 when the people who > purchase it are those who could care less about Linux, Opensource, or > anything of the sort, as long as the product has the right > price/performance, where performance in this sense includes the features > that the market deems necessary/important. As much as I like the potential > represented by the N770, (and I do hope it will eventually become a market > success) I do not think that Nokia is there yet, with that "I could care > less how it works" segment of the market, which, after all, is where most of > the consumers are when it comes to technology. > > > Best Regards, > > > > John Holmblad > > > > Televerage International > > GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM > > > > (H) 703 620 0672 > > (M) 703 407 2278 > > (F) 703 620 5388 > > > > primary email address: jholmblad at aol.com > > backup email address: jholmblad at verizon.net > > > > www page for texting: www.vtext.com/users/jholmblad > > text email address: jholmblad at vtext.com > > > Wooky wrote: > > Sorry, I forgot to change the subject line. > > 2006/1/27, Wooky <wooky.linuxer at gmail.com>: > > > > The iPod nano is like the 5th ipod generation. It does tons of things > > *less* than its hardware is actually capable of doing - see how versatile > > one becomes when it has Linux installed in it. Besides, it has fewer > > features than many competitors - even though I can say it does the few > > things it does *right*, it can't record audio properly, it has no radio > > capabilities, and so on. Should some no-name (or even recognised brands like > > Samsung) release an mp3 player exactly like the nano (I must admit Apple > > design is gorgeous) feature-wise, it would probably go unnoticed. The sucess > > of the nano has much more to do with good design and brand recognition than > > anything else. So, with all due respect, and I am not saying the 770 haven't > > got to improve a lot, I think your comparison with an iPod is moot. > > > > > > > > Elad, > > > > > > thanks for pointing out the article. > > > > > > Having read the article, I have to say that, aside the poor choice of > > > article headline on the part of the author, I do not agree with your > > > overall assessment of the article. I thought the author's overall > > > assessment was actually reasonable. > > > > > > Based on what I have read on this list, in terms of problems, turns > > > of > > > the OS image, etc. I have to conclude that Nokia has a long way to go > > > in > > > learning how to launch a consumer product like this (new technology + > > > new target market). Just think if the Apple IPOD Nano came out with > > > as > > > many problems as the 770? Apple years ago learned the the process of > > > launching consumer products like this the hard way with their failure > > > with the Newton PDA (new technology+new market). Nokia is learning > > > with > > > the 770, which is clearly not the same as a mobile phone product. > > > > > > I am encouraged by what I read on this list that the technical > > > problems > > > are being worked out and perhaps the next release of the 770 hw will > > > address performance concerns as well. I think also that 770 pricing is > > > > > > an issue in the U.S. at least where the market is awash with > > > technology > > > substitutes. The price for the 770 really needs to be at ~~$200 to > > > grab > > > the attention of consumers who could care less about which OS it is > > > running. Again, using Apple's IPOD Nano as an example, that rough > > > price > > > point of $200 hit the market "nail" on the head. At that price point > > > it > > > is not unusual to find households with several IPODS. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > John Holmblad > > > > > > > > > > > > Televerage International > > > > > > GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM > > > > > > > > > > > > (H) 703 620 0672 > > > > > > (M) 703 407 2278 > > > > > > (F) 703 620 5388 > > > > > > > > > > > > primary email address: jholmblad at aol.com > > > > > > backup email address: jholmblad at verizon.net > > > > > > > > > > > > www page for texting: www.vtext.com/users/jholmblad > > > > > > text email address: jholmblad at vtext.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jeferson Lopes Zacco > > > > > > > -- > Jeferson Lopes Zacco > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users at maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > -- Jeferson Lopes Zacco -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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