OK Chaps I've broken it. I have a VG containing one LV and made up of 3 live disks and 2 failed disks. Whilst the disks were failing I attempted to move date off the failing disks, which failed so I now have a pvmove0 that won't go away either. So if I attempt to even remove a live disk I get an error. [root@nas ~]# vgreduce -v vg_backup /dev/sdi1 Using physical volume(s) on command line. Wiping cache of LVM-capable devices Wiping internal VG cache Couldn't find device with uuid eFMoUW-6Ml5-fTyn-E2cT-sFXu-kYla-MmiAUV. Couldn't find device with uuid LxXhsb-Mgag-ESXZ-fPP6-52dE-iNp2-uKdLwu. There are 2 physical volumes missing. Cannot change VG vg_backup while PVs are missing. Consider vgreduce --removemissing. There are 2 physical volumes missing. Cannot process volume group vg_backup Failed to find physical volume "/dev/sdi1". Then if I attempt a vgreduce --removemissing I get [root@nas ~]# vgreduce --removemissing vg_backup Couldn't find device with uuid eFMoUW-6Ml5-fTyn-E2cT-sFXu-kYla-MmiAUV. Couldn't find device with uuid LxXhsb-Mgag-ESXZ-fPP6-52dE-iNp2-uKdLwu. WARNING: Partial LV lv_backup needs to be repaired or removed. WARNING: Partial LV pvmove0 needs to be repaired or removed. There are still partial LVs in VG vg_backup. To remove them unconditionally use: vgreduce --removemissing --force. Proceeding to remove empty missing PVs. So I try force [root@nas ~]# vgreduce --removemissing --force vg_backup Couldn't find device with uuid eFMoUW-6Ml5-fTyn-E2cT-sFXu-kYla-MmiAUV. Couldn't find device with uuid LxXhsb-Mgag-ESXZ-fPP6-52dE-iNp2-uKdLwu. Removing partial LV lv_backup. Can't remove locked LV lv_backup. So no go. If I try lvremove pvmove0 [root@nas ~]# lvremove -v pvmove0 Using logical volume(s) on command line. VG name on command line not found in list of VGs: pvmove0 Wiping cache of LVM-capable devices Volume group "pvmove0" not found Cannot process volume group pvmove0 So Heeelp I seem to be caught in some kind of loop. _______________________________________________ linux-lvm mailing list linux-lvm@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm read the LVM HOW-TO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/