On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 01:35:56pm -0500, Stuart D Gathman wrote: > Long ago, Nostradamus foresaw that on 01/24/2013 01:08 PM, Alasdair G > Kergon would write: > > If you've got the capacity to test, create one that's quite a bit > > larger and see how much space it actually uses up when full, then use > > that size in future. There's a header, and then the blocks are written > > sequentially with an index block inserted ahead of each group of > > data blocks. > > > > Or try out thin LVs available in recent LVM releases/kernels for > > an alternative 'sparse' approach. > He doesn't actually want sparse, he wants "instant zero" via copy on > write. This is useful for virtual machines by preventing information > leaks between customers. Currently, you can create a "template" LV, > and have a snapshot for each VM. Since you (almost) never write to the > template, you don't run into the performance issue. He proposed a new > type of LV that is a normal LV plus a small bitmap (1 bit per chunk) > that tracks which chunks have been written to. When a chunk is written > to, the remainder of that chunk is set to zero. Reads from unwritten > chunks always return zeroes. > Spot on! "Guaranteed initialized to zero" is what I'm looking for. So the LVM snapshot mechanism would work, but it may be a bit of an overkill. I'd rather not do it in a trial-and-error fashion, trying different values of S just a bit larger than V, until it works. How large is the overhead per chunk? Ideally, we could quantify the overhead as a fraction of the chunk size, and use it as a safe margin for estimating the needed physical size. Thanks again, Vangelis. -- Vangelis Koukis vkoukis@grnet.gr OpenPGP public key ID: pub 1024D/1D038E97 2003-07-13 Vangelis Koukis <vkoukis@cslab.ece.ntua.gr> Key fingerprint = C5CD E02E 2C78 7C10 8A00 53D8 FBFC 3799 1D03 8E97 Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go. -- T.S. Eliot
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