When I do an lvs to look at he sizes of my devs, I get: lvm> lvs WARNING: Running as a non-root user. Functionality may be unavailable. /dev/ram0: open failed: Operation not permitted /dev/dm-0: open failed: Operation not permitted /dev/ram1: open failed: Operation not permitted /dev/sda1: open failed: Operation not permitted /dev/dm-1: open failed: Operation not permitted /dev/ram2: open failed: Operation not permitted .... /dev/ram16: open failed: Operation not permitted /dev/ram17: open failed: Operation not permitted ... /dev/sdb1: open failed: Operation not permitted /dev/sdc6: open failed: Operation not permitted ... No volume groups found. Thing is, ll '/dev/sd?' show: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 Jul 8 23:52 /dev/sda brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 Jul 8 23:52 /dev/sdb brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 32 Jul 8 16:52 /dev/sdc brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 48 Jul 8 16:52 /dev/sdd and me: > groups tty disk mail wheel games audio SYSGROUP www squid trusted named ldap backup unix_users home private powerd .... Notice 'disk'.... and notice how group disk has same perms has uid 'root'?? I could write to the darn things!, but all I NEED is read (hmmm maybe I should change the perms on those devs to 640, but besides the point)....I should be able to read them! (any WHY is lvm looking at all the ram disks? Do that many people use lvm with ram disks? (possible, but don't see it as very useful). So what's going on? are all the user's associated groups being dumped somewere? Shouldn't have to become root just to get status of things (like running 'top', etc...) _______________________________________________ linux-lvm mailing list linux-lvm@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm read the LVM HOW-TO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/