On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Ray Morris <support@bettercgi.com> wrote: >> My general scripting philosophy is that automation scripts that >> do not have errors should not generate output that will cause cron >> to send an email. > >> So... I grabbed the source code and started nosing around. > > So we'll look forward to seeing your patches I hope? This is the first time I've ever even looked at LVM source code. I'm not sure I can be trusted with patches. Thinking about it some more, I was wondering if the log_info macro is purely for syslog functionality. I could be barking up the wrong tree in terms of my suggested approach. I would rather leave this to someone with experience if the behavior can be agreed upon. > It does seem logical that it shouldn't produce informational > messages on stdout with --quiet. > > As to the first part, that got me thinking about the general rule. > Is it generally agreed that commands which do not have errors "should > not generate output" or that commands which do not have ERRORs "should > not generate output on standard ERROR? > > The OP said that these messages are on stdout, not stderr. I'm > kind of thinking that's right. No errors, nothing on standard error. > If using --quiet, then no standard output. If lacking a quiet option, > then cron jobs should redirect stdout to /dev/null, sending mail if > there are errors on stderr. Thoughts? > -- > Ray Morris > support@bettercgi.com I agree completely with your assessment. The only issue I wanted to raise is that a quiet option is advertised, but it does not get the job done. Jeff > On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:46:05 -0600 > Jeff <jlar310@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Background: I am using lvm snapshots in a backup script. My general >> scripting philosophy is that automation scripts that do not have >> errors should not generate output that will cause cron to send an >> email. >> >> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 with lvm2.02.54-1ubuntu4. >> >> Even with the --quiet option I get "Logical volume <name> created" on >> stdout with lvcreate and "Logical volume <name> successfully removed" >> with lvremove. >> >> So... I grabbed the source code and started nosing around. In >> lv_manip.c, I find that these messages are produced with a call to the >> function log_print. log_print is a macro (in log.h) for >> LOG_LINE(_LOG_WARN, args). So it looks like the logging system sees >> these messages as warnings and is printing them even though verbosity >> is turned down as far as possible. In addition to --quiet on the >> command line, I have verbose = 0 in lvm.conf which according to the >> man page "should produce no output". >> >> >From my point of view, lv_manip.c should be calling the log_info >> >macro >> for these messages and not log_print, thus giving the user control >> over the output as advertised by the documentation. Disclaimer: I did >> not dig into the source code far enough to be assured that log_info >> will generated the proper results, but it certainly appears on the >> surface to be the right option. >> >> I also downloaded the latest source tarball (2.0.2.84) and the >> situation appears to be the same. >> >> Jeff _______________________________________________ linux-lvm mailing list linux-lvm@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm read the LVM HOW-TO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/