Thanks for your answer...
But my test show that it is, the LVM2 software the probleme...
Because even whith 3 writing test at the same time on 3 LV which are on the same VG and the same PV, the performance are better than one LV whith only one snapshot...
Look this test:
suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=10M count=150
150+0 records in
150+0 records out
1572864000 bytes (1.6 GB) copied, 27.9422 seconds, 56.3 MB/s
suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test2 bs=10M count=150
150+0 records in
150+0 records out
1572864000 bytes (1.6 GB) copied, 33.2836 seconds, 47.3 MB/s
suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test3 bs=10M count=150
150+0 records in
150+0 records out
1572864000 bytes (1.6 GB) copied, 33.784 seconds, 46.6 MB/s
With 3 writing test AT THE SAME TIME , the average is better that one writing test on one LV whith one snap
Look,
suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L2G -ntest.snap /dev/vg0/test
Logical volume "test.snap" created
suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=10M count=150
150+0 records in
150+0 records out
1572864000 bytes (1.6 GB) copied, 382.315 seconds, 4.1 MB/s
It is disastrous...
I think dd is a good test...
| Cordialement, |
 | |
| MARTINEAU Antony Service informatique Assistant informatique LIPPI Management | La Fouillouse 16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35 Courriel: antony.martineau@lippi.fr http://www.lippi.fr |
| De : | Heinz Mauelshagen <mauelshagen@redhat.com> |
| Pour : | LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com> |
| Date: | 09/06/2008 11:46 |
| Objet : | Re: Performance tunning on LVM2 |
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 08:03:51AM -0700, Larry Dickson wrote:
> A (linear) volume group made of two physical volumes consists of one PV
> followed by the other, rather like a "Raid-Linear". If you size the
> origin logical volume right, you can get one LV (the origin) to fall on one
> disk, and force the snapshot to land on the other disk. This eliminates
> back-and-forth seeking to the COW. Whether it solves your problem will
> depend on how smart the driver is about the read-before-write activity on
> the origin volume.
>
> Other members of the list may have more experience on this. Comments?
If I read correctly, Antony just has *ONE* PV.
So no matter what, he has to add another to allow for snapshot COW
store allocation on that other PV, distinct from the one holding
the origin(s). Presumably there's no other bottleneck aside from the
disk, that'll do better.
Keep in mind, that unless you've got streaming writes, the performance
won't drop as much as in the (artificial) dd test below.
FYI: With the current snapshot implementation, multiple snapshots per single
origin will throttle write performance because of write duplication
to all per snapshot COW stores.
Heinz
>
> Larry
>
> On 6/6/08, Antony MARTINEAU <Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The volume group vg0 is the raid0 of two disk (SAS 15000rpm 300G0)
> > I have only this raid on the server
> >
> > But i don't understand, imagine i make a volume group ou of this raid0. It
> > is no possible to snapshot the original volume, am i wrong?
> >
> > If i make a new VG on another disks, For exemple /dev/vg1/
> > LVM don't permit to store a snaphot on a different VG than the origin
> > volum.
> >
> > for exemple /dev/vg0/test cant be snapshoting on /dev/vg1/test.snap
> >
> > LV test and LV test.snap must be on the same volume, am i wrong ???? so it
> > is impossible to store snapshot on another disk....
> >
> >
> > Cordialement,
> >
> > *MARTINEAU
> > Antony*
> > Service informatique
> > Assistant informatique
> > LIPPI Management La Fouillouse
> > 16440 Mouthiers sur Boheme
> > Tel.: 05.45.67.34.35
> > Courriel: *antony.martineau@lippi.fr* <antony.martineau@lippi.fr>*
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> >
> >
> >
> > De : "Larry Dickson" <ldickson@cuttedge.com> Pour : "LVM general
> > discussion and development" <linux-lvm@redhat.com> Date: 06/06/2008 16:19 Objet
> > : Re: Performance tunning on LVM2
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > This looks like the result of excessive seeking. Are origin volume and
> > snapshot both on the same physical drive? Is it possible to make a volume
> > group out of two drives, and arrange things so that origin volume and
> > snapshot are hitting different disks?
> >
> > Larry Dickson
> > Cutting Edge Networked Storage
> >
> > On 6/6/08, *Antony MARTINEAU* <*Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr*<Antony.MARTINEAU@lippi.fr>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > My configuration:
> > Server DELL 2860 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3230 @ 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
> > 8GB of memory
> > 2 x SAS 15000 300G0 RAID 0 hardware
> > SLES 10 SP2
> > Kernel 2.6.16.60-0.21-xen
> >
> > i have one volume group vg0 ( whith one PV, the two disks in raid0) whith
> > many lvm
> > I am very surprise about LVM2 performance when a snapshot is done.
> > Write speed on the Original volume is very bad when a snaphot is active...
> >
> > For exemple:
> > *
> > Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is NO snapshot :*
> >
> > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > 400+0 records in
> > 400+0 records out
> > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
> > *
> > Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is one snapshot of this original volume :
> > *
> >
> > suse2:~ # lvremove --force /dev/vg0/test3.snap
> > Logical volume "test3.snap" successfully removed
> > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > 400+0 records in
> > 400+0 records out
> > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 6.42741 seconds, 131 MB/s
> > suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest.snap /dev/vg0/test
> > Logical volume "test.snap" created
> > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > 400+0 records in
> > 400+0 records out
> > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 204.862 seconds, 4.1 MB/s
> >
> > *
> > Speed on /dev/vg0/test when there is 2 snapshots of this original volume :
> > *
> >
> > suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest1.snap /dev/vg0/test
> > Logical volume "test1.snap" created
> > suse2:~ # lvcreate -s -L1G -ntest2.snap /dev/vg0/test
> > Logical volume "test2.snap" created
> > suse2:~ # lvremove /dev/vg0/test2.snap
> > Do you really want to remove active logical volume "test2.snap"? [y/n]: y
> > Logical volume "test2.snap" successfully removed
> > suse2:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/vg0/test bs=2M count=400
> > 400+0 records in
> > 400+0 records out
> > 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 270.928 seconds, 3.1 MB/s
> >
> >
> > Do you know some elements about tunning performance?,?
> >
> > Performances are disastrous when a snaphot is active
> > Could you give your speed result? and your amelioration??
> >
> > ps:Results are the same whithout Kernel Xen and whith a kernel more recent
> > (*2.6.24.2* <http://2.6.24.2/>) Cordialement,
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