LVM data recovery

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Hello,

I've read the how-to at tldp.org but still can't figure out how to recover the data I have on a LVM setup like this:

/dev/hda + /dev/hdb

/dev/hda has crashed....
I need to recover all data that is on /dev/hdb but vgscan and vgchange -ay volume_group_name don't seem to work if /dev/hda is gone


Can anyone help ?
What should I do ?


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