>> In message <20030429220328.XULC259.imf39bis.bellsouth.net@tiger2>, Greg >> Freemyer >> writes: >> > >> Now y'all can tell me that the Promise ATA RAID cards suck and I >> > >> shouldn't use them, and I should get a hardware RAID card, [....] >> > >> And I'll happily agree with you, but for two small facts: >> > >> - the hardware RAID cards cost more than twice what the drives cost, >> and >> > >> they're 120GB IDE drives with large caches; let alone SCSI hardware >> > >> RAID (which also increases the cost of the disks a lot too); >> > >> >Just thought I would point out that a 2-channel 3ware card is about the >> price >> >of a single 80GB drive. (i.e. $130 US) >> Around here (New Zealand) I can buy a 120GB IDE disk, with a 3 year >> warrenty, and a 8MB cache, for that sort of price (NZ$280 -> US$140 ish). >> Still, that's a lot closer to the price of the Promise cards (I'd >> previously only seen the 3-ware cards with prices around the US$250 ish >> sort of mark). Is that for the 3Ware 7000-2 card, which appears to be >> a 2-drive (single IDE channel?), card as best I can tell? Or for the >> 3Ware 7500-4LP card which appears to be a 4-drive (2 IDE channel?) card? >> (The Promise TX2000, and most of the Promise on-board ata-raid chipsets, >> are 2 IDE channels, 4 drives max -- although of course for best >> performance you really only want one drive per IDE channel.) Yes, the 7000-2, but it uses 2 IDE channels. 3ware only talks to IDE masters. i.e. The 4 drive card uses 4 IDE channels and 4 separate cables, one per drive. I have not yet tried the 8 and 12 port cards, but I assume they are the same. I want to build up a 1 TB machine for testing soon, so I need to buy a 8-port card. Not sure that I will ever need a 12 port. >> Now all I need to find is a source of 3ware IDE cards in New Zealand; >> I haven't found any retail sources so far, and the one distributor I >> found mentioned doesn't even have a website in New Zealand (it redirects >> to a flash-only overseas website). I don't know how many you need, but I buy them from Bell Micro in OEM packs (no cables, no manuals, no software). They come 10 to a box for slightly less than $1000 US. $130 US is for a retail package. You can download the manuals and software, and we did not use their cables anyway. Maybe Bell Micro ships to New Zealand? >> Ewen Greg -- Greg Freemyer _______________________________________________ linux-lvm mailing list linux-lvm@sistina.com http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm read the LVM HOW-TO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/