Hi, Aslak! Aslak Sommerfelt Skretting (aslak@skretting.org) wrote 51 lines: > would disable the fsck's that occur now and then (and takes an insane amount > of time on a 650gb filesystem), and are no longer necessary since the > filesystem is EXT3. Well, no. Journalling can not even check for errors and problems due to: - program errors in - ext2/ext3 - the buffer cache - the VFS - cable problems and connection problems - harddisk firmware problems - the harddisk firmware reordering data without being allowed or returning 'OK, all data written' without that being true - harddisk physical errors/marginal harddisk - headcrashes - controller hardware troubles - controller firmware troubles - marginal power block, brownouts, spikes, interference - main memory corruption (you don't have ECC RAM, do you? And even that will not protect you against all multibit errors), maybe due to cosmic rays or other radiation, marginal power, marginal chips, bad luck, unwise chosen parameters for memory refreshes (blame the BIOS!) ... - Data corruption on the printed board circuit track, inside the CPU, in the 1st/2nd/3rd level cache, etc, due to bad luck/heat/marginal hardware/powerspikes, interferences, whatever. Journalling only helps against "not cleanly umounting your partitions forces a *long* fsck", because it guarantees (modulo hardware/firmware errors and software bugs) that it can return the metadata (and in some cases, the data) to a known good status -- which is all that fsck does. You really want backups. Neither Journalling nor Raid will protect you against program errors, nor human errors. Slip of finger with rm, typo like "... > important_file", the wrong mouse click -- you surely can think of more. -Wolfgang _______________________________________________ linux-lvm mailing list linux-lvm@sistina.com http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html