Re: Please reconsider SCH5514

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From: "Norbert Schlenker" <norbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 6:56 PM
To: <lm-sensors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject:  Please reconsider SCH5514

I'm asking for reconsideration of the decision not to support the SCH5514
because it has no apparent monitoring capability.  In fact, recent
versions of Speedfan under Windows manage to use the chip to control all
three fans in a Dell Optiplex 755.

Hereafter I include the startup log output from speedfan and the various
items suggested by your "How to ask for help" page. Note that
sensors-detect sees the chip as SCH5514D-NS but the physical chip on the
motherboard is SCH5514E-NS.

I will monitor the list and am happy to provide whatever further
information you require.

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** Speedfan startup log output

Win9x:NO  64Bit:NO  GiveIO:YES  SpeedFan:YES
I/O properly initialized
Linked ISA BUS at $0290
Linked Intel 82801IB ICH9 SMBUS at $ECE0
Scanning ISA BUS at $0290...
DELL at $3E8 msg : Tested temps : 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
DELL at $3E8 msg : Tested fans : 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
DELL at $3E8 msg : Tested pwms : 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
SuperIO Chip=SCH5514
Scanning Intel SMBus at $ECE0...
Found WDC WD800JD-75MSA3 on AdvSMART
Found Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz
End of detection
Loaded 0 events

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** Machine: Dell Optiplex 755 ultra-small form factor
** Motherboard: Winbond Electronics 0HX555
** lm-sensors version: 3.3.1
** Kernel: 3.2.0-24-generic

** Output of # sensors

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0:       +39.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:       +43.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

** Output of # dmesg

Irrelevant as far as I can tell.

** Output of # sudo sensors-detect

# sensors-detect revision 5984 (2011-07-10 21:22:53 +0200)
# System: Dell Inc. OptiPlex 755
# Board: Dell Inc. 0HX555

This program will help you determine which kernel modules you need
to load to use lm_sensors most effectively. It is generally safe
and recommended to accept the default answers to all questions,
unless you know what you're doing.

Some south bridges, CPUs or memory controllers contain embedded sensors.
Do you want to scan for them? This is totally safe. (YES/no):
Module cpuid loaded successfully.
Silicon Integrated Systems SIS5595...                       No
VIA VT82C686 Integrated Sensors...                          No
VIA VT8231 Integrated Sensors...                            No
AMD K8 thermal sensors...                                   No
AMD Family 10h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 11h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 12h and 14h thermal sensors...                   No
AMD Family 15h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 15h power sensors...                             No
Intel digital thermal sensor...                             Success!
   (driver `coretemp')
Intel AMB FB-DIMM thermal sensor...                         No
VIA C7 thermal sensor...                                    No
VIA Nano thermal sensor...                                  No

Some Super I/O chips contain embedded sensors. We have to write to
standard I/O ports to probe them. This is usually safe.
Do you want to scan for Super I/O sensors? (YES/no):
Probing for Super-I/O at 0x2e/0x2f
Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'...               No
Trying family `SMSC'...                                     Yes
Found `SMSC SCH5514D-NS Super IO'
   (no hardware monitoring capabilities)
Probing for Super-I/O at 0x4e/0x4f
Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'...               No
Trying family `SMSC'...                                     No
Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'...               No
Trying family `ITE'...                                      No

Some systems (mainly servers) implement IPMI, a set of common interfaces
through which system health data may be retrieved, amongst other things.
We first try to get the information from SMBIOS. If we don't find it
there, we have to read from arbitrary I/O ports to probe for such
interfaces. This is normally safe. Do you want to scan for IPMI
interfaces? (YES/no):
Probing for `IPMI BMC KCS' at 0xca0...                      No
Probing for `IPMI BMC SMIC' at 0xca8...                     No

Some hardware monitoring chips are accessible through the ISA I/O ports.
We have to write to arbitrary I/O ports to probe them. This is usually
safe though. Yes, you do have ISA I/O ports even if you do not have any
ISA slots! Do you want to scan the ISA I/O ports? (YES/no):
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM78' at 0x290...       No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM79' at 0x290...       No
Probing for `Winbond W83781D' at 0x290...                   No
Probing for `Winbond W83782D' at 0x290...                   No

Lastly, we can probe the I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware
monitoring devices. This is the most risky part, and while it works
reasonably well on most systems, it has been reported to cause trouble
on some systems.
Do you want to probe the I2C/SMBus adapters now? (YES/no):
Using driver `i2c-i801' for device 0000:00:1f.3: Intel ICH9
Module i2c-i801 loaded successfully.
Module i2c-dev loaded successfully.

Next adapter: i915 gmbus disabled (i2c-0)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 gmbus ssc (i2c-1)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 GPIOB (i2c-2)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 gmbus vga (i2c-3)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 GPIOA (i2c-4)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 gmbus panel (i2c-5)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 GPIOC (i2c-6)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 gmbus dpc (i2c-7)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 GPIOD (i2c-8)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 gmbus dpb (i2c-9)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 GPIOE (i2c-10)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 gmbus reserved (i2c-11)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 gmbus dpd (i2c-12)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: i915 GPIOF (i2c-13)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):

Next adapter: SDVO DDC proxy (i2c-14)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):
Client found at address 0x4a
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM75'...                No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM75A'...               No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS75'...                  No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM77'...                No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADT7410'...                     No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADT7411'...                     No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS1621/DS1631'...         No
Probing for `Maxim MAX6642'...                              No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM73'...                No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM92'...                No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM76'...                No
Probing for `Maxim MAX6633/MAX6634/MAX6635'...              No
Probing for `NXP/Philips SA56004'...                        No
Client found at address 0x4b
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM75'...                No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM75A'...               No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS75'...                  No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM77'...                No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADT7410'...                     No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADT7411'...                     No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS1621/DS1631'...         No
Probing for `Maxim MAX6642'...                              No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM92'...                No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM76'...                No
Probing for `Maxim MAX6633/MAX6634/MAX6635'...              No
Probing for `NXP/Philips SA56004'...                        No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADT7481'...                     No
Client found at address 0x50
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'...                     No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'...                     No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'...                                 No
Probing for `EDID EEPROM'...                                Yes
   (confidence 8, not a hardware monitoring chip)

Next adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at ece0 (i2c-15)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively):
Client found at address 0x50
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'...                     No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'...                     No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'...                                 Yes
   (confidence 8, not a hardware monitoring chip)
Probing for `EDID EEPROM'...                                No
Client found at address 0x52
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'...                     No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'...                     No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'...                                 Yes
   (confidence 8, not a hardware monitoring chip)

Now follows a summary of the probes I have just done.
Just press ENTER to continue:

Driver `coretemp':
 * Chip `Intel digital thermal sensor' (confidence: 9)

To load everything that is needed, add this to /etc/modules:
#----cut here----
# Chip drivers
coretemp
#----cut here----
If you have some drivers built into your kernel, the list above will
contain too many modules. Skip the appropriate ones!

Do you want to add these lines automatically to /etc/modules? (yes/NO)NO

Unloading i2c-dev... OK
Unloading i2c-i801... OK
Unloading cpuid... OK

** Output of # lsmod

Module                  Size  Used by
xt_limit               12711  8
xt_tcpudp              12603  7
ipt_LOG                12919  8
ipt_MASQUERADE         12759  0
xt_DSCP                12629  0
ipt_REJECT             12576  1
nf_conntrack_irc       13383  0
nf_conntrack_ftp       13452  0
xt_state               12578  6
bnep                   18281  2
rfcomm                 47604  4
bluetooth             180104  10 bnep,rfcomm
nls_iso8859_1          12713  1
nls_cp437              16991  1
vfat                   17585  1
fat                    61512  1 vfat
iptable_nat            13229  0
nf_nat                 25891  2 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat
nf_conntrack_ipv4      19716  9 iptable_nat,nf_nat
nf_conntrack           81926  7
ipt_MASQUERADE,nf_conntrack_irc,nf_conntrack_ftp,xt_state,iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4
nf_defrag_ipv4         12729  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
iptable_mangle         12734  0
iptable_filter         12810  1
ip_tables              27473  3 iptable_nat,iptable_mangle,iptable_filter
x_tables               29846  11
xt_limit,xt_tcpudp,ipt_LOG,ipt_MASQUERADE,xt_DSCP,ipt_REJECT,xt_state,iptable_nat,iptable_mangle,iptable_filter,ip_tables
snd_hda_codec_analog    97987  1
snd_hda_intel          33773  3
snd_hda_codec         127706  2 snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep              13668  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm                97188  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_seq_midi           13324  0
snd_rawmidi            30748  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event     14899  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                61896  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer              29990  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device         14540  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
ppdev                  17113  0
psmouse                87692  0
serio_raw              13211  0
snd                    78855  15
snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
dcdbas                 14490  0
joydev                 17693  0
mei                    41616  0
parport_pc             32866  1
mac_hid                13253  0
soundcore              15091  1 snd
snd_page_alloc         18529  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
coretemp               13525  0
lp                     17799  0
parport                46562  3 ppdev,parport_pc,lp
i915                  468764  3
usbhid                 47199  0
hid                    99559  1 usbhid
drm_kms_helper         46978  1 i915
e1000e                156693  0
drm                   242038  4 i915,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit           13423  1 i915
video                  19596  1 i915

** Output of # lspci -nn

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express DRAM
Controller [8086:29b0] (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express
Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:29b2] (rev 02)
00:02.1 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express
Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:29b3] (rev 02)
00:03.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express
MEI Controller [8086:29b4] (rev 02)
00:03.2 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express PT IDER
Controller [8086:29b6] (rev 02)
00:03.3 Serial controller [0700]: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Serial
KT Controller [8086:29b7] (rev 02)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit
Network Connection [8086:10bd] (rev 02)
00:1a.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #4 [8086:2937] (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #5 [8086:2938] (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2
EHCI Controller #2 [8086:293c] (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD
Audio Controller [8086:293e] (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI
Express Port 1 [8086:2940] (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #1 [8086:2934] (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #2 [8086:2935] (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB
UHCI Controller #3 [8086:2936] (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2
EHCI Controller #1 [8086:293a] (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e]
(rev 92)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801IO (ICH9DO) LPC
Interface Controller [8086:2914] (rev 02)
00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation 82801IR/IO/IH
(ICH9R/DO/DH) 6 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [8086:2922] (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus
Controller [8086:2930] (rev 02)

** No i2c buses

** Sensor chip is SMSC SCH5514E-NS

** Output of # pwmconfig

There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed


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Hello,

Have you seen this: http://www.spinics.net/lists/lm-sensors/msg24621.html ?

Without having full specifications it's hard to write a driver, and signing a NDA goes against open source (Non Disclosure Agrement <> Open Source).

Regards
Ian Dobson



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