Hi Rudolf, On 4/10/07, Rudolf Marek <r.marek at assembler.cz> wrote: > Hello all, > > First I would like to thank Jean for his great work even if could be seen as > "slow". He did the perfect job, allowing only just perfect code to enter the trees. I completely agree. > > I haven't seen anything from Rudolf Marek, but he is definitely > > qualified if he wants to step up. I'm personally hoping Jean changes > > his mind. > > Well I'm afraid Jean thought about this twice and I think his decision cannot be > changed easily. Personally I think that change of one person to another won't > change much. Problem we are facing is long delay between the post of the driver > to driver merge. > > Review of one complex driver takes hours and hours. If the fixes could be split > into critical and non-critical parts driver could be accepted earlier and marked > as EXPERIMENTAL in very new (for hwmon ;) meaning of the word. I mean Jean did > great job and spotted all troubles during the review, so there were nearly none > of bug fixes for already merged drivers. > > Maybe we could try following: > > 1) person post the driver > 2) quick review could be done critical fixes only, driver goes to -mm > 3) review that goes deeper - check for interface conformity and all the stuff > which could break - fixes for non-critical stuff > 4) after this driver goes to Linus tree at the very beginning for the merge > cycle marked as EXPERIMENTAL > 5) if the person agrees to be in MAINTAINER final review may be done and > EXPERIMENTAL could be removed. (This is step which might involve all steps to > make the driver really perfect ;) > > Well this is just an idea. Neither it does solve the maintainer problem, nor it > is perfect solution. I would be happy to help with quick reviews. I would not be able to do the "final" "code-perfect" review. But I would be happy to contribute (more) time for this review process if it would help Jean feel more comfortable. > As for the proposal of David. I joined the list in 2004 with my very own driver > and learned a lot from Jean and others and on my own ;) During last year??? I > was doing some kind of "review preprocessor" to help Jean with that. I still > have feeling Jean is simply better. Second reason why I hesitating to say "I > will take it" is time. This would cost a lot of time, but unfortunately my free > time is very tight. I'm doing PhD and working for a embedded stuff company > (SYSGO). Moreover I would like to meet some nice girl for a life, which is quite > difficult and also quite time consumptive ;). Ah, Rudolf, you and I are in almost exactly the same position. In every detail. > Personally better would be go with Jean and some kind of scheme noted above, > which would solve our "takes too long problem" and preserve the high quality of > drivers. This would mean some co-maintainers to Jean, rather than to live > without Jean at all. I think our major problem here is that there will not be anyone capable of Jean's work, and not for a while yet. I would have thought you, Rudolf, were closest. The hwmon project really needs him. David
