Winbond 792 source codes for lm_sensor

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Hi Jean, MDS

I only get the answer of the problem about "sensor-detect".
Can you give me some guidance about my other questions?


Thanks

Best Regards
Chunhao


> -----Original Message-----
> From: PI14 HUANG0
> Sent: 2005??1??25?? 11:36
> To: 'LM Sensors'
> Cc: PI10 LHHsu; PI14 DZSHEN
> Subject: RE: Winbond 792 source codes for lm_sensor
> 
> Dear Jean:
> 
> 
> > > > - Why is the vol_factor array exposed to /proc? Isn't this only for
> > > >   debugging?
> > > >   These shouldn't be exposed to the user. If the user needs to
> > > >   adjust computation it can be done in /etc/sensors.conf.
> > >
> > > In the requirements of our customer: the motherboard vendor should
> > > have the permission to modify the voltage factor, so I expose it into
> > > /proc. I write it with the reference of our Windows version, the
> > > Windows version GUI supply a interface to modify the voltage factor,
> > > but it need authentication, That's to say, NOT all of the user can
> > > modify it.
> > As I understand it, these factors account for the resistors placed on
> > the motherboard, which are needed to bring all voltages back into the
> > measurable 0V-4V range. Am I correct?
> 
> I do NOT know the exact function of factors, maybe you are right, it is
> used to bring into some voltage range. I may delete the exposed interface
> vol_factor in /proc later.
> 
> 
> > Is so, this does indeed not belong to the driver and has to be removed.
> > Such computation has always been performed in userspace by libsensors,
> > for all drivers. The reason for this is that libsensors can do almost
> > any mathematical operation, not only apply factors. As a matter of fact,
> > the W83792D chip needs more than factors for -5V and -12V (an additional
> > offset is needed), and unless I am missing something, your driver
> > doesn't handle that. There is also a kernel development policy which
> > states that conversions should always be moved outside of the kernel
> > when possible, and this is exactly what libsensors is there for.
> >
> > As a side note, I'm already not certain that restricting the access to
> > these values in the Windows world makes sense, but I am certain that it
> > makes no sense in the Linux world. The goal of open-source tools is to
> > give the users the possibility to change whatever them want to, and
> > certainly not to put restrictions to what they are allowed to do. And at
> > any rate there is no room for such a restriction mechanism in the
> > libsensors framework.
> 
> In my w83792d.c I calculate the voltages according to the data sheet of 792,
> Please refer to the page 39(Chapter 8.6), page 41(Chapter 8.7), page 61
> (Chapter 8.28 and 8.29) of 792 Data Sheet.
> Do you mean that I should multiply these factors in user space, instead of
> doing that in the driver w83792d.c?
> But I find that in the driver w83781d.c, it also do the translation in kernel
> by using such macros:
> #define IN_TO_REG(val)  (SENSORS_LIMIT((((val) * 10 + 8)/16),0,255))
> #define IN_FROM_REG(val) (((val) * 16 + 5) / 10)
> 
> Would you please give me an example on how to move the translate into user space?
> Is it what MDS said:"adjust computation it can be done in /etc/sensors.conf"
> 
> 
> > As a side note, the voltage factors were used in your driver for the
> > measured values only, not for the limits (unless I missed something) so
> > it was not working correctly anyway.
> 
> Yes, the voltage factors in my driver is only for the measured value,
> NOT for the limits, that's because in the Datasheet of 792, the factors
> for the measured values are different from for the limits, Please refer to
> the page 39(Chapter 8.6), page 41(Chapter 8.7), page 61 (Chapter 8.28
> and 8.29).
> 
> In the driver of w83781d.c I find that the voltage factors are both for
> the measured values and the limits. Do you have any suggestions for my
> 792 driver about it?
> 
> 
> > > And I will need your help at that time. For example, to add 792
> > > related codes into the script program "sensors-detect" because I know
> > > very few about Perl. :-)
> >
> > The sensors-detect script is supposed to already identify the W83792D
> > chip (since lm_sensors 2.9.0). If it doesn't, let us know and we'll fix
> > it.
> The version of lm_sensors I'm working is 2.9.0. And I find there are
> some codes about 792 in script sensors-detect, But it seems that it does NOT
> work, because it can NOT find W83792D chip. Neither do the version 2.8.8
> The attachment is the detect result log, you may refer to it and check the
> script again.
> 
> 
> > What will obviously require an update though is libsensors. I suppose
> > you will provide a patch together with the driver itself? Seems hard to
> > properly test the driver and especially its interaction with "sensors"
> > without this.
> As to libsensors, I know very few about it, Could you give me a simple
> introduction about it? Such as the function of it, and how to update it
> for me, etc.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Best Regards
> Chunhao
> 2005-1-25


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