On 20/07/20 9:05 am, Joe Lawrence wrote: > On 7/17/20 2:29 PM, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: >> Use of the new -flive-patching flag was introduced with the following >> commit: >> >> 43bd3a95c98e ("kbuild: use -flive-patching when CONFIG_LIVEPATCH is enabled") >> >> This flag has several drawbacks: >> >> [ ... snip ... ] >> >> - While there *is* a distro which relies on this flag for their distro >> livepatch module builds, there's not a publicly documented way to >> create safe livepatch modules with it. Its use seems to be based on >> tribal knowledge. It serves no benefit to those who don't know how to >> use it. >> >> (In fact, I believe the current livepatch documentation and samples >> are misleading and dangerous, and should be corrected. Or at least >> amended with a disclaimer. But I don't feel qualified to make such >> changes.) > > FWIW, I'm not exactly qualified to document source-based creation either, however I have written a few of the samples and obviously the kselftest modules. > > The samples should certainly include a disclaimer (ie, they are only for API demonstration purposes!) and eventually it would be great if the kselftest modules could guarantee their safety as well. I don't know quite yet how we can automate that, but perhaps some kind of post-build sanity check could verify that they are in fact patching what they intend to patch. > > As for a more general, long-form warning about optimizations, I grabbed Miroslav's LPC slides from a few years back and poked around at some IPA-optimized disassembly... Here are my notes that attempt to capture some common cases: > > http://file.bos.redhat.com/~jolawren/klp-compiler-notes/livepatch/compiler-considerations.html Hi Joe, The notes link you shared is not accessible. Regards, -- Kamalesh