On Tue 2017-01-10 14:46:46, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 02:00:58PM +0100, Petr Mladek wrote: > > On Thu 2016-12-22 12:31:37, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 03:34:52PM +0100, Petr Mladek wrote: > > > > On Wed 2016-12-21 15:25:05, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 06:32:46PM +0100, Petr Mladek wrote: > > > > > > On Thu 2016-12-08 12:08:38, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > > > > > > > + read_unlock(&tasklist_lock); > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + /* > > > > > > > + * Ditto for the idle "swapper" tasks, though they never cross the > > > > > > > + * syscall barrier. Instead they switch over in cpu_idle_loop(). > > > > > > > + */ > > > > > > > + get_online_cpus(); > > > > > > > + for_each_online_cpu(cpu) > > > > > > > + set_tsk_thread_flag(idle_task(cpu), TIF_PATCH_PENDING); > > > > > > > + put_online_cpus(); > > > > > > > > > > > > Also this stage need to be somehow handled by CPU coming/going > > > > > > handlers. > > > > > > > > > > Here I think we could automatically switch any offline CPUs' idle tasks. > > > > > And something similar in klp_try_complete_transition(). > > > > > > > > We still need to make sure to do not race with the cpu_up()/cpu_down() > > > > calls. > > > > > > Hm, maybe we'd need to call cpu_hotplug_disable() before switching the > > > offline idle tasks? > > > > > > > I would use here the trick with for_each_possible_cpu() and let > > > > the migration for the stack check. > > > > > > There are a few issues with that: > > > > > > 1) The idle task of a missing CPU doesn't *have* a stack, so it doesn't > > > make much sense to try to check it. > > > > > > 2) We can't rely *only* on the stack check, because not all arches have > > > it. The other way to migrate idle tasks is from the idle loop switch > > > point. But if the task's CPU is down, its idle loop isn't running so > > > it can't migrate. > > > > > > (Note this is currently a theoretical point: we currently don't allow > > > such arches to use the consistency model anyway because there's no > > > way for them to migrate kthreads.) > > > > Good points. My only concern is that the transaction might take a long > > or even forever. I am not sure if it is wise to disable cpu_hotplug > > for the entire transaction. > > > > A compromise might be to disable cpu hotplug only when the task > > state is manipulated a more complex way. Hmm, cpu_hotplug_disable() > > looks like a rather costly function. We should not call it in > > klp_try_complete_transition(). But we could do: > > > > 1. When the patch is being enabled, disable cpu hotplug, > > go through each_possible_cpu and setup the transaction > > only for CPUs that are online. Then we could enable > > the hotplug again. > > > > 2. Check only each_online_cpu in klp_try_complete_transition(). > > If all tasks are migrated, disable cpu hotplug and re-check > > idle tasks on online CPUs. If any is not migrated, enable > > hotplug and return failure. Othewise, continue with > > completion of the transaction. [*] > > > > 3. In klp_complete_transition, update all tasks including > > the offline CPUs and enable cpu hotplug again. > > > > If the re-check in the 2nd step looks ugly, we could add some hotlug > > notifiers to make sure that enabled/disabled CPUs are in a reasonable > > state. We still should disable the hotplug in the 1st and 3rd step. > > > > BTW: There is a new API for the cpu hotplug callbacks. I was involved > > in one conversion. You might take inspiration in > > drivers/thermal/intel_powerclamp.c. See cpuhp_setup_state_nocalls() > > there. > > Backing up a bit, although I brought up cpu_hotplug_disable(), I think I > misunderstood the race you mentioned. I actually don't think > cpu_hotplug_disable() is necessary. Great backing! You made me to study the difference. If I get it correctly: + cpu_hotplug_disable() works like a writer lock. It gets exclusive access via cpu_hotplug_begin(). A side effect is that do_cpu_up() and do_cpu_down() do not wait. They return -EBUSY if hotplug is disabled. + get_online_cpus() is kind of reader lock. It makes sure that all the hotplug operations are finished and "softly" blocks other further operation. By "softly" I mean that the operations wait for the exclusive (write) access in cpu_hotplug_begin(). IMHO, we really have to use get_online_cpus() and avoid the the "hard" blocking. > What do you think about something like the following: > In klp_start_transition: > > get_online_cpus(); > for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) > set_tsk_thread_flag(idle_task(cpu), TIF_PATCH_PENDING); > put_online_cpus(); > > In klp_try_complete_transition: > > get_online_cpus(); > for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) { > task = idle_task(cpu); > if (cpu_online(cpu)) { > if (!klp_try_switch_task(task)) > complete = false; > } else if (task->patch_state != klp_target_state) { > /* offline CPU idle tasks can be switched immediately */ > clear_tsk_thread_flag(task, TIF_PATCH_PENDING); > task->patch_state = klp_target_state; > } > } > put_online_cpus(); I like the idea. You are right that it is enough to always get/put CPUs only when a state of the per-CPU idle tasks are manipulated. In the meantime, we are safe because of the consistency model (clever ftrace handler). Note that we have to use for_each_possible_cpu() everywhere, e.g. in klp_init_transition(), klp_complete_transition(). Otherwise, we might see an inconsistent state. For example, klp_ftrace_handler() might see KLP_UNDEFINED state if we do not set a valid one in klp_init_transition() and a CPU gets online. Best Regards, Petr -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe live-patching" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html