On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 01:04:21AM -0600, Bill O'Donnell wrote: > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:58:33PM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 12:52:25AM -0600, Bill O'Donnell wrote: > > > > 1) Our vaunted^Wshitty review process didn't catch various coding bugs, > > > > and testing didn't trip over them until I started (ab)using precommit > > > > hooks for spot checking of inode/dquot/buffer log items. > > > > > > You give little time for the review process. > > > > I don't really think that is true. But if you feel you need more time > > please clearly ask for it. I've done that in the past and most of the > > time the relevant people acted on it (not always). > > > > > > 2) Most of the metadir/rtgroups fixes are for things that hch reworked > > > > towards the end of the six years the patchset has been under > > > > development, and that introduced bugs. Did it make things easier for a > > > > second person to understand? Yes. > > > > > > No. > > > > So you speak for other people here? > > No. I speak for myself. A lowly downstream developer. > scrub is the worst offender. What the hell is it, and why do you insist its imortance? > > > > > I call bullshit. You guys are fast and loose with your patches. Giving > > > little time for review and soaking. > > > > I'm not sure who "you" is, but please say what is going wrong and what > > you'd like to do better. > > You and Darrick. Can I be much clearer? > > > > > > > > becoming rather dodgy these days. Do things need to be this > > > > > complicated? > > > > > > > > Yeah, they do. We left behind the kindly old world where people didn't > > > > feed computers fuzzed datafiles and nobody got fired for a computer > > > > crashing periodically. Nowadays it seems that everything has to be > > > > bulletproofed AND fast. :( > > > > > > Cop-out answer. > > > > What Darrick wrote feels a little snarky, but he has a very valid > > point. A lot of recent bug fixes come from better test coverage, where > > better test coverage is mostly two new fuzzers hitting things, or > > people using existing code for different things that weren't tested > > much before. And Darrick is single handedly responsible for a large > > part of the better test coverage, both due to fuzzing and specific > > xfstests. As someone who's done a fair amount of new development > > recently I'm extremely glad about all this extra coverage. > > > I think you are killing xfs with your fast and loose patches. Downstreamers > like me are having to clean up the mess you make of things. > > > > > >
