Re: About the conflict between XFS inode recycle and VFS rcu-walk

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On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 02:35:17PM +0800, Jinliang Zheng wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 11:14:32 +1100, david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 05, 2023 at 07:38:33PM +0800, alexjlzheng@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > Hi, all
> > > 
> > > I would like to ask if the conflict between xfs inode recycle and vfs rcu-walk
> > > which can lead to null pointer references has been resolved?
> > > 
> > > I browsed through emails about the following patches and their discussions:
> > > - https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/20220217172518.3842951-2-bfoster@xxxxxxxxxx/
> > > - https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/20220121142454.1994916-1-bfoster@xxxxxxxxxx/
> > > - https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/164180589176.86426.501271559065590169.stgit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
> > > 
> > > And then came to the conclusion that this problem has not been solved, am I
> > > right? Did I miss some patch that could solve this problem?
> > 
> > We fixed the known problems this caused by turning off the VFS
> > functionality that the rcu pathwalks kept tripping over. See commit
> > 7b7820b83f23 ("xfs: don't expose internal symlink metadata buffers to
> > the vfs").
> 
> Sorry for the delay.
> 
> The problem I encountered in the production environment was that during the
> rcu walk process the ->get_link() pointer was NULL, which caused a crash.
> 
> As far as I know, commit 7b7820b83f23 ("xfs: don't expose internal symlink
> metadata buffers to the vfs") first appeared in:
> - https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/YZvvP9RFXi3%2FjX0q@bfoster/
> 
> Does this commit solve the problem of NULL ->get_link()? And how?

I suggest reading the call stack from wherever the VFS enters the XFS
readlink code.  If you have a reliable reproducer, then apply this patch
to your kernel (you haven't mentioned which one it is) and see if the
bad dereference goes away.

--D

> > 
> > Apart from that issue, I'm not aware of any other issues that the
> > XFS inode recycling directly exposes.
> > 
> > > According to my understanding, the essence of this problem is that XFS reuses
> > > the inode evicted by VFS, but VFS rcu-walk assumes that this will not happen.
> > 
> > It assumes that the inode will not change identity during the RCU
> > grace period after the inode has been evicted from cache. We can
> > safely reinstantiate an evicted inode without waiting for an RCU
> > grace period as long as it is the same inode with the same content
> > and same state.
> > 
> > Problems *may* arise when we unlink the inode, then evict it, then a
> > new file is created and the old slab cache memory address is used
> > for the new inode. I describe the issue here:
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/20220118232547.GD59729@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
> 
> And judging from the relevant emails, the main reason why ->get_link() is set
> to NULL should be the lack of synchronize_rcu() before xfs_reinit_inode() when
> the inode is chosen to be reused.
> 
> However, perhaps due to performance reasons, this solution has not been merged
> for a long time. How is it now? 
> 
> Maybe I am missing something in the threads of mail?
> 
> Thank you very much. :)
> Jinliang Zheng
> 
> > 
> > That said, we have exactly zero evidence that this is actually a
> > problem in production systems. We did get systems tripping over the
> > symlink issue, but there's no evidence that the
> > unlink->close->open(O_CREAT) issues are manifesting in the wild and
> > hence there hasn't been any particular urgency to address it.
> > 
> > > Are there any recommended workarounds until an elegant and efficient solution
> > > can be proposed? After all, causing a crash is extremely unacceptable in a
> > > production environment.
> > 
> > What crashes are you seeing in your production environment?
> > 
> > -Dave.
> > -- 
> > Dave Chinner
> > david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 




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