On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 07:28:48AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > On Thu, 2023-10-19 at 11:29 +0200, Christian Brauner wrote: > > > Back to your earlier point though: > > > > > > Is a global offset really a non-starter? I can see about doing something > > > per-superblock, but ktime_get_mg_coarse_ts64 should be roughly as cheap > > > as ktime_get_coarse_ts64. I don't see the downside there for the non- > > > multigrain filesystems to call that. > > > > I have to say that this doesn't excite me. This whole thing feels a bit > > hackish. I think that a change version is the way more sane way to go. > > > > What is it about this set that feels so much more hackish to you? Most > of this set is pretty similar to what we had to revert. Is it just the > timekeeper changes? Why do you feel those are a problem? So I think that the multi-grain timestamp work was well intended but it was ultimately a mistake. Because we added code that complicated timestamp timestamp handling in the vfs to a point where the costs clearly outweighed the benefits. And I don't think that this direction is worth going into. This whole thread ultimately boils down to complicating generic infrastructure quite extensively for nfs to handle exposing xfs without forcing an on-disk format change. That's even fine. That's not a problem but in the same way I don't think the solution is just stuffing this complexity into the vfs. IOW, if we make this a vfs problem then at the lowest possible cost and not by changing how timestamps work for everyone even if it's just internal.