On Thu, 2023-08-10 at 02:44 +0900, OGAWA Hirofumi wrote: > Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > On Thu, 2023-08-10 at 00:17 +0900, OGAWA Hirofumi wrote: > > > Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx> writes: > > [...] > > > My mistake re: lazytime vs. relatime, but Jan is correct that this > > shouldn't break anything there. > > Actually breaks ("break" means not corrupt fs, means it breaks lazytime > optimization). It is just not always, but it should be always for some > userspaces. > > > The logic in the revised generic_update_time is different because FAT is > > is a bit strange. fat_update_time does extra truncation on the timestamp > > that it is handed beyond what timestamp_truncate() does. > > fat_truncate_time is called in many different places too, so I don't > > feel comfortable making big changes to how that works. > > > > In the case of generic_update_time, it calls inode_update_timestamps > > which returns a mask that shows which timestamps got updated. It then > > marks the dirty_flags appropriately for what was actually changed. > > > > generic_update_time is used across many filesystems so we need to ensure > > that it's OK to use even when multigrain timestamps are enabled. Those > > haven't been enabled in FAT though, so I didn't bother, and left it to > > dirtying the inode in the same way it was before, even though it now > > fetches its own timestamps from the clock. Given the way that the mtime > > and ctime are smooshed together in FAT, that seemed reasonable. > > > > Is there a particular case or flag combination you're concerned about > > here? > > Yes. Because FAT has strange timestamps that different granularity on > disk . This is why generic time truncation doesn't work for FAT. > > Well anyway, my concern is the only following part. In > generic_update_time(), S_[CM]TIME are not the cause of I_DIRTY_SYNC if > lazytime mode. > > - if ((flags & S_VERSION) && inode_maybe_inc_iversion(inode, false)) > + if ((flags & (S_VERSION|S_CTIME|S_MTIME)) && inode_maybe_inc_iversion(inode, false)) > dirty_flags |= I_DIRTY_SYNC; > That would be wrong. The problem is that we're changing how update_time works: Previously, update_time was given a timestamp and a set of S_* flags to indicate which fields should be updated. Now, update_time is not given a timestamp. It needs to fetch it itself, but that subtly changes the meaning of the flags field. It now means "these fields needed to be updated when I last checked". The timestamp and i_version may now be different from when the flags field was set. This means that if any of S_CTIME/S_MTIME/S_VERSION were set that we need to attempt to update all 3 of them. They may now be different from the timestamp or version that we ultimately end up with. The above may look to you like it would always cause I_DIRTY_SYNC to be set on any ctime or mtime update, but inode_maybe_inc_iversion only returns true if it actually updated i_version, and it only does that if someone issued a ->getattr against the file since the last time it was updated. So, this shouldn't generate any more DIRTY_SYNC updates than it did before. -- Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx>