On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 8:36 AM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Or maybe Darrick (who doesn't see the issue) is running on raw > > hardware, and you and Zorro are running in a virtual environment? > > Ahah, it turns out that liburing-dev isn't installed on the test fleet, > so fstests didn't get built with io_uring support. That probably > explains why I don't see any of these hangs. > > Oh. I can't *install* the debian liburing-dev package because it has > a versioned dependency on linux-libc-dev >= 5.1, which isn't compatible > with me having a linux-libc-dev-djwong package that contains the uapi > headers for the latest upstream kernel and Replaces: linux-libc-dev. > So either I have to create a dummy linux-libc-dev with adequate version > number that pulls in my own libc header package, or rename that package. > > <sigh> It's going to take me a while to research how best to split this > stupid knot. Oh, no, that's great. It explains why you don't see the problem, and Dave and Zorro do. Perfect. No need for you to install any liburing packages, at least for this issue. You'll probably want it eventually just for test coverage, but for now it's the smoking gun we wanted - I was looking at why vhost would be impacted, because that commit so intentionally *tried* to not do anything at all to io_uring. But it obviously failed. Which then in turn explains the bug. Not that I see exactly where it went wrong yet, but at least we're looking at the right thing. Adding Jens to the participants, in case he sees what goes wrong. Jens, commit f9010dbdce91 ("fork, vhost: Use CLONE_THREAD to fix freezer/ps regression") seems to have broken core dumping with io_uring threads, even though it tried very hard not to. See https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230611124836.whfktwaumnefm5z5@zlang-mailbox/ for the beginning of this thread. Honestly, that "try to not change io_uring" was my least favorite part of that patch, because I really think we want to try to aim for these user helper threads having as much infrastructure in common as possible. And when it comes to core dumps, I do not believe that waiting for the io_uring thread adds anything to the end result, because the only reason we wait for it is to put in the thread register state into the core dump, and for kernel helper threads, that information just isn't useful. It's going to be the state that caused the thread to be created, not anything that is worth saving in a core dump for. So I'd actually prefer to just simplify the logic entirely, and say "PF_USER_WORKER tasks do not participate in core dumps, end of story". io_uring didn't _care_, so including them wasn't a pain, but if the vhost exit case can be delayed, I'd rather just say "let's do thig thing for both io_uring and vhost, and not split those two cases up". Anyway, I don't see exactly what goes wrong, but I feel better just from this having been narrowed down to io_uring threads. I suspect Jens actually might even have a core-dumping test-case somewhere, since core dumping was a thing that io_uring ended up having some issues with at one point. Linus