On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 04:13:34PM +0100, Joao Martins wrote: > On 10/19/21 00:06, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 12:37:30PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > > >>> device-dax uses PUD, along with TTM, they are the only places. I'm not > >>> sure TTM is a real place though. > >> > >> I was setting device-dax aside because it can use Joao's changes to > >> get compound-page support. > > > > Ideally, but that ideas in that patch series have been floating around > > for a long time now.. > > > The current status of the series misses a Rb on patches 6,7,10,12-14. > Well, patch 8 too should now drop its tag, considering the latest > discussion. > > If it helps moving things forward I could split my series further into: > > 1) the compound page introduction (patches 1-7) of my aforementioned series > 2) vmemmap deduplication for memory gains (patches 9-14) > 3) gup improvements (patch 8 and gup-slow improvements) I would split it, yes.. I think we can see a general consensus that making compound_head/etc work consistently with how THP uses it will provide value and opportunity for optimization going forward. > Whats the benefit between preventing longterm at start > versus only after mounting the filesystem? Or is the intended future purpose > to pass more context into an holder potential future callback e.g. nack longterm > pins on a page basis? I understood Dan's remark that the device-dax path allows FOLL_LONGTERM and the FSDAX path does not ? Which, IIRC, today is signaled basd on vma properties and in all cases fast-gup is denied. > Maybe we can start by at least not add any flags and just prevent > FOLL_LONGTERM on fsdax -- which I guess was the original purpose of > commit 7af75561e171 ("mm/gup: add FOLL_LONGTERM capability to GUP fast"). > This patch (which I can formally send) has a sketch of that (below scissors mark): > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/6a18179e-65f7-367d-89a9-d5162f10fef0@xxxxxxxxxx/ Yes, basically, whatever test we want for 'deny fast gup foll longterm' is fine. Personally I'd like to see us move toward a set of flag specifying each special behavior and not a collection of types that imply special behaviors. Eg we have at least: - Block gup fast on foll_longterm - Capture the refcount ==1 and use the pgmap free hook (confusingly called page_is_devmap_managed()) - Always use a swap entry - page->index/mapping are used in the usual file based way? Probably more things.. Jason