On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 02:36:34PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 04:36:43PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 01:05:57PM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 09:49:05AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > return a clean transaction. Other things to consider might be to do away
> > > > with support for external dfops and the ->t_dfops pointer indirection,
> > > > or perhaps even consider going the other direction: allocate dfops from
> > > > a separate zone to save some memory on non-permanent transactions (note
> > > > that 16 of 28 transactions use a permanent log res. last I looked, so it
> > > > may not be worth it atm).
> > >
> > > The defer_ops aren't really that big, and allocations are relatively
> > > costly, so I don't think a separate allocation is a good idea. If we
> > > really want to optimize the non-permanent transaction case we could do
> > > something like:
> > >
> > > struct xfs_trans {
> > > ...
> > > struct xfs_defer_ops dfops[];
> > > };
> > >
> > > and then have two caches for the with an without dfops case. But
> > > I can't believe that would be worth it, especially in face of...
> > >
> > >
> > > > I know Christoph also had thoughts around condensing some of the items
> > > > joined to the dfops to those with the transaction.
> > >
> > > ... this.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah. I was actually poking around today after writing this up and
> > thought that we might be able to replace both dop_inodes/dop_bufs with
> > checks in the transaction item list for either held buffers or inode
> > items where lock_flags == 0. I _think_ both of those states may be
> > essentially equivalent to joined dfops items, but I have to verify that.
> > If so, we can probably make the dfops inode/buf relogging "automatic,"
> > drop both pointer lists and the whole memory thing becomes kind of moot.
>
> <nod>
>
> > > > I have yet to think
> > > > about that one, but I do have an RFC quality patch laying around that
> > > > replaces the ->dop_low flag with a transaction flag (->t_flags),
> > > > eliminating the need for that extra byte in xfs_defer_ops. The one quirk
> > > > associated with that is the question of whether we want to preserve the
> > > > behavior where low mode remains active across the series of transactions
> > > > associated with the traditional (on-stack) dfops or is reset on
> > > > transaction roll (a la firstblock). I'll post that RFC separately for a
> > > > more proper discussion..
> > >
> > > That sounds like a good enough start. For now I'd keep the existing
> > > behavior because it really is deep magic and needs a deep audit. I
> > > had started on that a long time ago but dropped the ball, but mixing
> > > it with this work is probably not helpful.
> >
> > That sounds reasonable to me. We can always change behavior in a
> > subsequent patch. IIRC the only issue is that intent recovery code has
> > no way to carry dop_low mode around without a transaction. It currently
> > passes around a dfops for each intent. Hmm, perhaps we can have the
> > caller just allocate a transaction, pass it to the recovery helpers for
> > reservation and then just keep rolling it rather than have each helper
> > allocate a transaction anew. I'll look into it, or let me know if you
> > have any other thoughts/ideas.
>
> That could get tricky, since each log intent item type allocates its own
> transaction with some context-dependent reservation and resblks. Rolling
> our way through the intent items would require us to calculate the max
> reservation size and resblks for all the items beforehand for the
> initial _trans_alloc, which would be kinda messy to avoid having a flags
> field.
>
Yeah, I was more thinking of creating a zero reservation transaction in
the caller and (re)exporting xfs_trans_reserve() so each helper could
reserve commit/roll.
Taking a look at the code, I wonder if the simplest thing is to allocate
an empty transaction in the caller (so nesting shouldn't be an issue, I
think, and since we already have that mechanism for scrub) instead of a
raw dfops, pass that new tp around and then open-code the transfer of
low mode back and forth the same way dfops are moved back and forth
until intent recovery completion. In fact, we could probably create a
little xlog_recover_tp_move() wrapper to do both and (more importantly)
document the hackery in one place until we determine whether to kill the
multi transaction low mode behavior. A bit ugly, but probably simpler
than trying to bake this one-off corner case (that can hopefully be
killed off) into the core transaction infrastructure via trans dups and
reservation games. Thoughts?
Brian
> --D
>
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