Re: [PATCH v3 17/17] Add parent pointer ioctl

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On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 01:11:34PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 11:02:51AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 03:48:50PM -0700, Allison Henderson wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 11/29/2017 02:37 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > >On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:35:37PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > >>On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:21:45AM -0700, Allison Henderson wrote:
> > > >>>This patch adds a new file ioctl to retrieve the parent
> > > >>>pointer of a given inode
> > > >>
> > > >>(Yes, it's time to start talking about actual use cases...)
> > > >>
> > > >>At a bare minimum, this is what I pictured for the "return parents of
> > > >>the open file" ioctl:
> > > >>
> > > >>#define XFS_PPTR_MAXNAMELEN		255
> > > >>
> > > >>struct xfs_pptr {
> > > >>	u64				pp_ino;
> > > >>	u32				pp_gen;
> > > >>	u8				pp_namelen;
> > > >>	u8				pp_name[XFS_PPTR_MAXNAMELEN];
> > > >>};
> > > >
> > > >That's going to be a different size on 32bit and 64 bit platforms
> > > >as the structure size is a multiple of 4 bytes, not 8 bytes.
> > > >That will cause problems and need complex comapt ioctl translation.
> > > >Better to make pp_namelen a u32 and that will make the structure
> > > >64 bit aligned and sized on all platforms.
> > > >
> > > >I'd allow more than u8 for the namelen. Yes, while we currently
> > > >allow on 255 bytes for a name, it would make more sense to
> > > >use a u32 here so that the structure size is a multiple of it's
> > > >alignment rather than having a 4 byte hole in the array we don't
> > > >fill out....
> 
> Maybe this ought to get padded up to the nearest 8-byte boundary too.
> 
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>/* return parents of the handle, instead of the open fd */
> > > >>#define XFS_PPTR_FLAG_HANDLE		(1u << 0)
> > > >>
> > > >>struct xfs_pptr_info {
> > > >>	struct xfs_fsop_handlereq	pi_handle;
> > > >>	struct xfs_attrlist_cursor	pi_cursor;
> > > >>	u32				pi_flags;
> > > >>	u32				pi_reserved;
> > > >>	u32				pi_ptrs_size;
> > > >>	u32				pi_ptrs_used;
> > > >>	u64				pi_reserved2[6];
> > > >>	struct xfs_pptr			pi_ptrs[0];
> > > >>};
> > > >
> > > >I thought gcc had started doing weird things with variable size
> > > >array declarations like this (i.e. pi_ptrs[0]) because the exact
> > > >behaviour is not defined in the C standard. i.e. we need to avoid
> > > >adding new declarations that do this...
> > > 
> > > Oh, I think there's a few places in the set where I have
> > > declarations like that.
> > 
> > Yup, there are quite a few, but IIRC we can't rely on them working
> > as they do right now in future compilers. So I'm pretty sure we need
> > to avoid these sorts of constructs if we can. Doing something like
> > this:
> 
> If gcc starts bungling them, there's going to be a lot of stuff in
> include/uapi/ that breaks.  FIEMAP, FSMAP, the weird vfs dedupe ioctl...

Yup, that'd kick up a shit storm. But when it's just XFS code that
triggers the problem, the compiler developers don't care that it's
worked for 20 years, they just quote chapter and verse: "code that
relies on undefined language constructs can be broken at any time by
the compiler and we don't care. Fix your code!"

So regardless of whatever happens elsewhere, we need to avoid adding
no potential problems to persistent structures such as on-disk and
ioctl interfaces....

> I think it'll be fine so long as we keep an eye on the structure size
> in xfs_ondisk.h.  If the structure size mutates we'll know because the
> ioctl will stop working with old userspace and/or we fail the build.
> 
> Oh but we don't keep an eye on that stuff.  Sigh.

Because who would expect entire structure members to be optimised
away by the compiler? :/

> > struct xfs_pptr_info {
> > 	struct xfs_fsop_handlereq	pi_handle;
> > 	struct xfs_attrlist_cursor	pi_cursor;
> > 	u32				pi_flags;
> > 	u32				pi_reserved;
> > 	u32				pi_ptrs_size;
> > 	u32				pi_ptrs_used;
> > 	u64				pi_reserved2[6];
> > 
> > 	/*
> > 	 * An array of struct xfs_pptr follows the header
> > 	 * information. Use XFS_PPINFO_TO_PP() to access the
> > 	 * parent pointer array entries.
> > 	 */
> > };
> > 
> > And providing an accessor function:
> > 
> > #define XFS_PPINFO_TO_PP(info, idx)	\
> > 	(&(((struct xfs_pptr *)((char *)(info) + sizeof(*(info))))[(idx)]))
> 
> Eww, macros. :)

You did it first with XFS_PPTR_INFO_SIZEOF() :P

> > > >>With the following example userspace program (that does no checking
> > > >>whatsoever):
> > > >>
> > > >>int main(int argc, char *argv[])
> > > >>{
> > > >>	struct xfs_pptr_info	*ppi;
> > > >>	struct xfs_pptr		*pp;
> > > >>	int			fd;
> > > >>
> > > >>	fd = open(argv[1], O_RDONLY);
> > > >>	ppi = xfs_pptr_alloc(32);
> > > >>
> > > >>	while (ioctl(fd, XFS_IOC_GETPPOINTER, ppi) == 0 && ppi->pi_ptrs_used) {
> > > >>		for (i = 0; i < ppi->pi_ptrs_used; i++) {
> > > >>			printf("%llu:%u -> %s\n",
> > > >>					ppi->pi_ptrs[i].pp_ino,
> > > >>					ppi->pi_ptrs[i].pp_gen,
> > > >>					ppi->pi_ptrs[i].pp_name);
> > 
> > And this becomes:
> > 
> > 		for (i = 0; i < ppi->pi_ptrs_used; i++) {
> > 			pp = XFS_PPINFO_TO_PP(ppi, i);
> > 			printf("%llu:%u -> %s\n", pp->pp_ino, pp->pp_gen,
> > 						  pp->pp_name);
> > 		}
> 
> Funnily enough I've added more bits to this, maybe I should just send a
> real RFC patch to the list.

Sounds like a plan :P

Cheers,

Dave.
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