On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 3:56 AM, Dave Chinner <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 08:40:57AM +0200, Jan Tulak wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 3:03 AM, Dave Chinner <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:39:32PM +0200, Jan Tulak wrote:
>> >> The old name 'defaultval' was misleading - it is not the default value,
>> >> but the value the option has when used as a flag by an user.
>> >
>> > Hmmm - ok, what we have here is the difference between design intent
>> > and the current use of the field.
>> >
>> > The design intent is that the defaultval field can contain the
>> > default value for any type of config field. It gets used when a user
>> > either doesn't specify the option or doesn't specify a value for the
>> > option that is being parsed. The special "need value" value tells
>>
>> These are two things that can't be done in one field.
>
> Drop the "doesn't specify the option" part of what I said - it's so
> long ago and I've been out of the loop for more than half a year
> and I've conflated several different things into one statement
> and ended up implying something I shouldn't have.
>
> e.g. I found an note in an old hacked up prototype patch I'd written
> and discarded way back in 2013, and it said:
>
> .....
> *
> * If a value is not supplied with an option, the option table entry
> * for that CLI option will tell the parser whether a value is
> * required. If a value is not require, it will contain the default
> * value that should be used for that CLI option.
> *
> .....
>
> The "store all defaults in the table" came later - IIRC (*cough*) it
> came about from wanting to support config files which needed a store
> for all the mkfs default values so they could be overriden by both
> config file and CLI options.
>
> As it is, since I originally started this options table rework, we
> now store most mkfs defaults in a separate structure:
>
> /*
> * Default values for superblock features
> */
> struct sb_feat_args sb_feat = {
> .finobt = 1,
> .spinodes = 0,
> .log_version = 2,
> .attr_version = 2,
> .dir_version = XFS_DFL_DIR_VERSION,
> .inode_align = XFS_IFLAG_ALIGN,
> .nci = false,
> .lazy_sb_counters = true,
> .projid16bit = false,
> .crcs_enabled = true,
> .dirftype = true,
> .parent_pointers = false,
> .rmapbt = false,
> .reflink = false,
> };
>
> Or we calculate them from underlying geometry. Hence the need to
> store "if not specified" mkfs defaults in the option table doesn't
> exist. It didn't exist years ago when I started on this, it doesn't
> exist now and AFAICT it doesn't need to exist in the future to
> support config files.
All right, that makes sense.
>
>> If it worked
>> that way, imagine what would happen with a flag that is disabled by
>> default, like -m rmapbt? If you put here the default value for
>> "disabled when not specified", you can't enable it with a flag. If you
>> put here a value for "enable when used as a flag", you have just
>> enabled it by default as well.
>
> The parser and table design is supposed to be flexible enough to
> give you enough rope to hang yourself. :)
>
Except the previous description was not giving you a rope, it was
directly throwing a loop around your neck. :-)
Now, with the "doesn't specify the option" part removed, this comment
is out of date.
> [....]
>
>> > the code that there isn't a defined default that can be used, so the
>> > option must be specified with a value.
>> >
>> > The current implementation only contains default values for flag
>> > fields, but that doesn't mean we can't use it for fields that are
>> > not flags. And if that's the case, then renaming the field "flagval"
>> > isn't the right thing to do....
>>
>> The field is used only when no value is provided, but the option is
>> specified --> when the option is used as a flag. So "flagval" sounds
>> ok to me.
>
> Again, you're using the implementation details to define a limit
> the scope of a variable that was designed to have a very wide
> scope and flexible usage.
>
> Let me finish factoring all the code into a set of usable
> structures, then we can start looking at the option table and config
> files from a fresh perspective. This time, we need to come up with a
> clean design and clear direction before any patches are written...
>
Agreed.
Cheers,
Jan
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