On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Al Viro <viro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Cooking it... The thing I really hate about the use of pipe_buffer is that > we want to keep the "use on-stack array for default pipe size" trick, and > pipe_buffer is fatter than I'd like. Instead of pointer + two numbers + > something to indicate whether it's picked from page cache or something we'd > allocated we get get pointer + int + int + pointer + int + long, which turns > into 5 words on 64bit. With 16-element array of those on stack frame, it's > not nice - more than half kilobyte of stack space with ->read_iter() yet to > be called... bvec would be better (60% savings boils down to 384 bytes > shaved off that thing), but we'd need to play games with encoding the "is > it page cache or not" bit somewhere in it. No, please don't play games like that. I think you'd be better off with just a really small on-stack case (like maybe 2-3 entries), and just allocate anything bigger dynamically. Or you could even see how bad it is if you just force-limit it to max 4 entries or something like that and just do partial writes. >From when I looked at things (admittedly a *long* time ago), the buffer sizes for things like read/write system calls were *very* skewed. There's a lot of small stuff, then there is the stuff that actually honors st.st_blksize (normally one page), and then there is the big buffers stuff. And the thing is, the big buffers are almost never worth it. It's often better to have a tight loop over smaller data than bouncing lots of data into buffers and then out of buffers. So I suspect all the "let's do many pages in one go" stuff is actually not worth it. Especially since the pipes will basically force a wait event when the pipe buffers fill up anyway. So feel free to try maxing out using only a small handful of pipe_buffer entries. Returning partial IO from splice() is fine. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-xfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html