Re: [RFC bluetooth-next 0/4] ieee802154: add support for phy capabilities

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On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 01:36:58PM +0200, Alexander Aring wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 03:07:23PM +0530, Varka Bhadram wrote:
> > On 04/09/2015 02:58 PM, Alexander Aring wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 12:02:10PM +0530, Varka Bhadram wrote:
> > >> On 04/08/2015 04:48 PM, Alexander Aring wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> this patches introduce a mechanism to get phy capabilities. We simple add
> > >>> some additional pib values like "channels_supported" information. These
> > >>> information also includes mib values which are phy dependent like frame_retries
> > >>> or csma_backoffs, this is necessary because the phy doing a little bit mac
> > >>> stuff. We simple extend the pib according these phy dependent mac values.
> > >>>
> > >>> These capabilities are by default full 802.15.4 complaint, if some transceiver
> > >>> supports less functionality only then these values need to be overwritten inside
> > >>> the driver-layer.
> > >>>
> > >>> Fruthermore we also add functionality to dump these values via
> > >>> NL802154_CMD_GET_WPAN_PHY.
> > >>>
> > >>> - Alex
> > >>>
> > >>> Cc: Phoebe Buckheister <phoebe.buckheister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> Cc: Varka Bhadram <varkabhadram@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>
> > >>> Alexander Aring (4):
> > >>>   ieee802154: introduce wpan_phy_supported struct
> > >>>   ieee802154: move channels supported out of softmac
> > >>>   ieee802154: add several phy supported handling
> > >>>   at86rf230: set cca_modes supported flags
> > >>>
> > >>>  drivers/net/ieee802154/at86rf230.c | 14 ++++++++++----
> > >>>  drivers/net/ieee802154/cc2520.c    |  2 +-
> > >>>  drivers/net/ieee802154/fakelb.c    | 30 +++++++++++++++---------------
> > >>>  drivers/net/ieee802154/mrf24j40.c  |  2 +-
> > >>>  include/net/cfg802154.h            | 11 ++++++++++-
> > >>>  net/ieee802154/nl-phy.c            |  4 ++--
> > >>>  net/ieee802154/nl802154.c          | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++++-------
> > >>>  net/mac802154/cfg.c                |  4 ----
> > >>>  net/mac802154/main.c               | 10 ++++++++++
> > >>>  9 files changed, 71 insertions(+), 35 deletions(-)
> > >>>
> > >> And also we need to look into expose available power level (supported by transeiver)
> > >> to the user space by iwpan. Then user can configure the particular power level. 
> > >>
> > >> If not user don't know the power levels that the transceiver support.
> > >>
> > > yep... I will try to add it to the next series, also for ed_level. For
> > > 700/800/900 Mhz at86rf212 it depends on which band the transceiver operates
> > > and the available tx_power settings.
> > >
> > > When I try to implement it, then I need to know the country/band laws
> > > what's the min and max tx_power db values? Does something like this
> > > exists? Is s8 as datatype really enough to support all available
> > > tx_power settings? -> (not because I also saw some floating point tx_power
> > > settings, but then we simple doesn't provide them). I will try to
> > > introduce something which supports the at86rf2xx transceiver values. We
> > > can still change the interface again later if it doesn't fit, but then
> > > everybody will hate us. :-)
> > >
> > > - Alex
> > 
> > I think its not going to work out. But i am worrying about how the driver user
> > will know the power levels available..?
> 
> You mean to know the power levels in userspace? We will introduce
> tx_power in wpan_phy_supported of course, then we will add support for
> dumping these values on a wpan_phy dump.
> > 
> > How mac80211 is managing this issue..?
> 
> s/mac80211/wireless/
> 
> yes, I also looked in wireless. They used a U32 type and making some
> conversion to a floating point values by doing "value/100", do they have
> some Y.XX value. They call the not converted value MBM and converted
> value DBM, not sure for what MBM 100% stands.
> 
> This is for the tx_power value.
> 
> 
> For requesting all supported tx_power values, I run "iw phy" on my side
> and they have only some frequency @ dbm information. And in my case the
> dbm value was always the same for all frequency.
> 
> This was probaly the "max tx power" value for the frequency [1].
> 
> What wireless has is a "automatic tx power" support, so there is some
> heuristic around to detect the optimized tx_power setting.
> 
> The wireless tx_power looks very complicated at the moment and we should
> first support some existing nl802154 cmd (which was also before there)
> for setting a fixed tx_power mode. If wireless doesn't support dumping
> for that, means not we should also not support it.
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe we can use some:
> 
> u64 tx_power[IEEE802154_MAX_PAGE + 1][IEEE802154_MAX_CHANNEL + 1];
> 
> Then start some enum:
> 
> enum nl802154_tx_power {
> 	NL802154_TX_POWER_20DBM		= BIT(0),
> 	NL802154_TX_POWER_19DBM		= BIT(1),
> 	NL802154_TX_POWER_18DBM		= BIT(2),
> 	...
> 	NL802154_TX_POWER_NEG_44DBM	= BIT(63),
> };
> 

I think a better interface would be a new driver_op. Something like
"context based list interation while rtnl is hold", some new callback:
int get_tx_power(s8 *dbm), then nl802154 can start some nested attribute
and we calling get_tx_power until it returns 1 which indicate the end of
tx_power lists and ends the nested attribute. I will try to implement
this in this way.

- Alex
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