On Fri, 2012-06-22 at 07:41 -0700, Joe Perches wrote: > > > > Joe's conversion of mac80211 to pr_debug() was pretty much a disaster, > > > > > > First I've heard of it. > > > > Well I guess you didn't have the pleasure of having to work with bug > > reporters whose mac80211 messages suddenly completely disappeared ... > > Nor it seems the pleasure of interaction with a maintainer > that forwards notices like this. I told you before that I didn't like you wholesale converting it. I might have been more open to it if you'd actually let me work on it and convert some printk(KERN_DEBUG, ... to pr_info(). Now I'm stuck in a situation where a lot of people will no longer see the messages they expect, and I have to walk them through new, unexpected steps to make them show up if I'm debugging a problem. And heck, it's not even predictable since dynamic debug could be turned on or off too. > > Doesn't really make a difference though. In reality, > > most messages should be KERN_INFO anyway, so for those that aren't > > hidden behind extra Kconfig options, we should use pr_info(). > > Why? Aren't these then possibly some mixture of errors or > notices or info level messages? Yes, I believe that they are, but since you assumed that all KERN_DEBUG messages were essentially useless by converting them to off-by-default, I'm now changing it to assuming they're useful by converting them to pr_info, we can change them back later. However, most messages that aren't hidden behind Kconfig options are actually useful, even if they were printed at KERN_DEBUG before. johannes -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html