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How can I show missing information if interface is in master mode???

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Hello

Is there any reason that iwconfig/iw of interfaces which use mac80211 is different if interface is in master mode than in managed mode? The output of an interface in managed mode is like it was in old drivers like madwifi i.e. you can see bitrate of interface (importent if you want to set it to a lower one like for example 24Mbps which most cards have more output than with 54Mbps)
  Channel of interface
  essid of interface
If interface is in master mode you see nothing of that
In fact I have not found how to see essid of an interface in master mode and really need that, nor the set bitrate...
iw phy0 info does show the capabilities but not the set values...

Greetings

Beat

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