On 2011-05-27 1:45 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Felix Fietkau<nbd@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2011-05-25 9:27 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
The missing piece is how to deal with noise info here. In short the
lower noise we have the better signal we'll get. The challenge then is
to take into consideration the noise mathematically in such a that a
high noise value would nullify any clean idle air time ratio
conditions from the formula postulated before. Let me review again
with some modifications.
Active time is the time we spend on the channel, so to get an idea of
how "busy" that channel is we have to remove the tx and rx time from
that channel. That gives us the time we spent idle on that channel.
Then the busy time is a subset of the entire active time but we should
also exclude the time we spent tx'ing and rx'ing as well. We then
have:
(busy time - rx time - tx time) / (active time - rx time - tx time)
This is a bounded ratio already, given that if we spent 0 time tx'ing
0 time rx'ing, but 10 ms on a channel, and all that time we had busy
time as well we'd have a ratio of 10 / 10 = 1. In the best case we'd
have 0 / 10 = 0.
What I'd like to do is to affect the ratio to nullify it if the noise
is very low on the channel. Given that noise is logarithmic we'd have
to use a logarithmic function as well. Working on that now.
Please explain why you want to remove the rx time, it makes no sense to me.
Without rx time you will usually not get any useful indication of how busy
the channel is.
The busy time that happens when do not TX or RX accounts for
interference on the frequency which is not accounted for. RX time may
mean receiving beacons or probe responses, this type of data exchange
doesn't necessarily mean interference. I believe sampling conditions
each frequency without TX or RX'ing data would yield a more fair
representation of general interference on the channel, otherwise the
interference would be taking into consideration explicit forced
interference on the frequency by our own radio.
I think real channel load (including rx) is much more interesting for
channel selection than only interference. Interference time shouldn't
really matter that much in practice unless it's excessively high. Also,
even normal packets will increase the measured non-rx/tx busy time,
partially due to collisions, partially (on Atheros radios) because of
the way the radio works.
- Felix
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