On Wednesday, December 22, 2010, Alan Stern wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > It basically goes like this. There's device A that is only resumed when it's > > needed to carry out an operation and is suspended immediately after that. > > There's another device B that needs A to do something during its suspend. > > So, when the suspend of B is started, A is woken up, does its work and is > > suspended again (using pm_runtime_suspend()). Then B is suspended. > > > > We currently require that ->suspend() and ->resume() callbacks be defined > > for A (presumably pointing to the same code as its runtime callbacks) so that > > things work correctly, but perhaps we can just relax this requirement a bit? > > I'm not 100% sure that's a good idea, just considering it. > > I still don't know. It would require a lot of special conditions: no > child devices, not runtime-PM-disabled, not runtime-PM-forbidden... > Also, A's parent would have to be coded carefully; otherwise A's > runtime resume would prevent the parent from suspending. > > This just doesn't fit very well with the runtime PM model, or at least, > not in the form you described. > > Consider this instead: Since A is required to be functional before B > can be used, A must be registered before B and hence B gets suspended > before A. Therefore during the prepare phase we can runtime-resume A > and leave it powered up; when B needs to suspend, it won't matter that > the runtime-PM calls are ineffective. We don't really need to do that, because the runtime resume _is_ functional during system suspend. The only thing missing is a ->suspend() callback for A (and a corresponding ->resume() callback to make sure A will be available to B during system resume). > Then when A's dpm_suspend occurs, it can safely go to a low-power state and > stay there. Agreed. Thanks, Rafael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html