This E-mail is to summarize what I have learned to date. The pm_qos change does nothing useful. It may have helped a little, but the side effects are far worse than the benefits. Most systems work better with b43 when warm booted after Broadcom's wl driver was loaded. The conclusion is that wl is making some change in the setup that b43 is not. (3) Based on the above, I have done MMIO and PCI-E configuration tracing for the two drivers and found some real differences. After seeing these, I did more RE work, and found some setup for the PCI-E core that was missed earlier. I am still working on the changes. What I have completed is found at http://bcm-v4.sipsolutions.net/PCI-E#PCI-E_Setup I doubt that most of these new routines will affect the problem interfaces as they apply only to PCI-E core revisions 7 and 8. My BCM4312 has rev 9. I do not know what versions are giving the trouble. With SSB_DEBUG enabled, it will be in a log line as follows: ssb: Core 3 found: PCI-E (cc 0x820, rev 0x09, vendor 0x4243) If you are seeing the DMA error, please supply the above info. The "PCI-E Miscellaneous Configuration" routine that is not yet finished does run on my system and is the source of the tracing differences. If the problem cards has a revision newer than 9, I will probably need an MMIO trace for your device. Larry -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html